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John Byrne
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The IMDb has a poll on which is the best King Kong movie.

Peter Jackson's 2005 abomination has a third more votes than the 1933 original.

Wisdom and goodness to the vile seem vile.

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People are stupid.



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I watched the original KING KONG the other night, no idea how many people times this makes. I was struck once again by the brilliant use of expositional dialog in the opening minutes. Everything the audience needs to know is handled by people talking to each other -- no narration, no captions -- and not a word of it seems forced or unnatural.
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The story is also straightforward and logical. The amount of tortured logic it takes to bring together Jack Black's jerk, know-nothing Director; Naomi Watts' starving, but determined to remain politically correct in 1933 even at the cost of her job Actress; and Adrian Brody's hangdog unhunk "How am I supposed to write your documentary before you've filmed it? This isn't Nanook of the North" Writer is enough to make your ears bleed. The film was stupid and god-awful long before it ever got to the Silverback and its "Koko's Kitten Said 'No!'" section.

Carl Denham in the original knew the broad strokes he wanted to paint with his palette and was determined to work the "Beauty and the Beast" hook in there for the masses, but what he didn't have and didn't need to have was a full script or a hostage writer living in an animal crate to provide him with one. How was Jack Black going to get Kong and the zombie cannibal carnival to take direction to match Adrian Brody's script anyway?


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WTF??

I couldn't get through 1 of the 3+ hours of Jackson's movie.
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KING KONG is great because it has perfect economy in storytelling.

Jackson's remake is the complete opposite in that regard!
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It's no contest.
And I'm not being a classic movie snob, but the original is clean and tight movie making ,beginning to end.
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Of course the 2005 remake is better... it's got CGI, it's longer and it's in color!  And it's got Jack Black saying the word "boobies!"  Like, duh!





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Robot Chicken got it right about the Peter Jackson version
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Posted: 16 March 2017 at 7:36am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Begs the question as to how many that voted had actually seen the original version (or the earlier remake for that matter).
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Just ONCE I'd like to see Hollywood remake a movie using the same exact script and just utilize better cinematography, sound, and effects, just to see the result.

But that'll never happen. Too many egos involved.
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Just ONCE I'd like to see Hollywood remake a movie using the same
exact script and just utilize better cinematography, sound, and effects,
just to see the result.

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Wasn't that the Gus Van Sant PSYCHO?
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Wasn't that the Gus Van Sant PSYCHO?
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Although Van Sant tried, you can't really say is a shot-by-shot remake when you insert dream sequences (and trippy ones at that!).

Besides, who messes with Hitchcock?
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"Better" is such a subjective word!
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Besides, who messes with Hitchcock?

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Arguably Hitchcock himself given that he remade his own 'The Man Who Knew Too Much".

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Heck, I'll watch the '76 King Kong before I sit thru Peter Jackson's crap again!!!

Still, the original KING KONG is brilliant in its storytelling and even the effects (for its time) were pretty impressive!

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I listened to a podcast a couple years ago, wherein the host and his guest were supposedly watching footage from the '33 KONG, and proceeded to shit all over it.

"Look at that crap! It's in...Black and White! WTF! WTF! look at how stoopid that looks...those dopey little...what are those...little dolls they used to make this? FAKE! They look like... little Playdoh men! Oh! So FAKE! Look at that crap! They just did NOT know how to make movies back then! So pathetic!"

Turns out, unbeknownst to these mental giants, that they were actually watching an attempted recreation of the lost "Spider-Pit" sequence from the original KONG, and that it had been created by Peter Jackson's team at Weta, sometime around 2005.

I am not particularly surprised that most today would give Jackson's bloated, meandering mess a higher rating than the original KONG. To use just the example of the mouth-breathers I cited above, they, like most modern audiences, are predisposed to automatically consider any film older than say, 30 years or so, as ancient, irrelevant crap.

And it's in Black and White?...Duuude...are you f***in' with me? Why would I EVER wanna watch something like that?

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Posted: 16 March 2017 at 4:50pm | IP Logged | 18 post reply

In the last month, I've watched KONG '33, KONG '76 and SKULL ISLAND.

Notice what's conspicuously absent...


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Posted: 16 March 2017 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

Notice what's conspicuously absent...

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I don't blame Brian for skipping over 3 movies with "King Kong" in the title... I'll only watch two of those unnamed films for reasons that do not involve "Kong".
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A refresher course, for numbskulls:




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Sorry, wrong thread.

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 QUOTE:
Everything Wrong with KING KONG [2005]

I'm not clicking that link -- "everything wrong" will take hours to review!

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I don't blame Brian for skipping over 3 movies with "King Kong" in the title... I'll only watch two of those unnamed films for reasons that do not involve "Kong".

I do have a soft spot for KING KONG VS. GODZILLA.  Goofy, but fun...more entertaining than Jackson's KONG. Just haven't seen it in awhile...
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The only thing that makes sense in this poll is that your typical IMDB user has simply never seen any other Kong movie.  I remember when I saw Peter Jackson's Kong, it was ridiculously bad.  Jack Black kept making people laugh (especially his final line of the movie) and then you had the "spider" scene that had been cut from the original Kong and Jackson-ized, which made my wife get up and take a long bathroom break. She told me she almost went and sat in the car and read her book instead of coming back. 


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Jackson made one movie I liked, THE FRIGHTENERS, then launched off into a perfect shitstorm of bloated self-indulgence. Now I can no longer watch THE FRIGHTENERS without being reminded of what comes after.
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