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Wallace Sellars
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Cyborg was another character that I was only familiar with from the Teen
Titans cartoon. (booyah!) I was curious as to why he was put into the movie.



If Cyborg was included for the reason I think, Static would have been a much
better choice.
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Cyborg was another character that I was only familiar with from the Teen Titans cartoon. (booyah!) I was curious as to why he was put into the movie.

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He was most likely put in the movie because (and this is just a theory of mine) they wanted to make the team more racially diverse and because Johns was a fan of the Super Powers cartoon from the early 80's (which Cyborg was a member of the team).
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A Korean streaming service has put up the first three minutes of the Justice League movie online. Why is this even worth mentioning? The movie starts off with a flashback sequence featuring Superman and Henry Cavill's famous digital shave .... 

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It looks like he has an orange segment under his lip.
 
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I mis-read your post Joe, and went to view the video thinking it was a deleted scene showing Superman shaving . . . so I was expecting a JB-type scene with Clark using a mirror and heat vision (was it JB who first introduced that concept?).

So, a little disappointing.  Still, nice to see Superman smile. 
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"Still, nice to see Superman smile.  "

I see what Joss Whedon was trying to do with Synder's movie, and I like it. I might actually go see the movie (assuming it is still in theaters). 
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I saw Justice League a couple of days before we saw Thor, and I found JL to be perfectly entertaining.  Not high art by any means, but like Thor, it seemed like (at times, anyway) that the actors were having fun with their parts, which helped lighten the mood.

Yes, the palette makes it come off more dreary than it should, and the villain is absolutely forgettable, but it "felt" like a decent comic book read.  Not like grabbing a copy of the Byrne or Perez era Avengers, mind you, but now that I think about it a bit, if I squint with my mind's eye, I can see Steppenwolf as a fill-in for the Silver Age Despero.  Looking at it that way, I could easily accept the movie's plot as being something plucked from the Dick Dillin Silver Age era -- one of those "done-in-one" Villain Of The Month issues from an era when there wasn't much to be seen in the way of character development, and the plots weren't overly epic, but the entertainment value was still there.

The parademons were somewhat forgettable, but they served well as footsoldier fodder for the heroes to wade through.

The characters DID seem to be "in-character," at least:  Batman wasn't the "dick Batman" we've seen so much of in the comics for the past couple of decades, which was nice.  There was just enough effort devoted to introducing Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman, IMO, and the team seemed to mesh well. 

Overall, it's maybe not the strongest foundation ever laid, but I think that there's plenty to build on here if DC wants to continue to grow the universe that they've put in place.

Go into it assuming you're going to be watching it as a basic "popcorn movie" action flick, and you might come away pleasantly surprised. 
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 Wallace Sellars wrote:
If Cyborg was included for the reason I think, Static would have been a much 
better choice.

He was included for the reason you think he was and yes, Static would have been a much better choice.  But it's not a choice we can blame the film for making.  I hadn't read mainstream comics for nearly a decade until a recent job that required me to get up to speed and imagine my surprise when I discovered that Cyborg has been a member of the JLA, in various incarnations, for nearly a decade in the comics. As a huge Teen Titans fan, his role feels out of place to say the least (and lets not talk about his New Gods powers including the ability to Boom Tube).  

Talk around the office as JL was about to open centered around whether or not Cyborg was a legit character or just a boring one.  I erred on the side of thinking he's incredibly compelling, but only in the atmosphere created by the team dynamic of the original Teen Titans.  Outside of that, people have as hard a time grasping his character as some seem to have taking on Thor.  
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For all it's flaws, I liked JL, especially Superman. I would be interested in seeing an extended cut because I'd like to see more of Cyborg and Steppenwolf's stories. 
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The after credits scenes from Justice League have finally surfaced online, one of which finally introduces Deathstroke to the DCEU:


The Flash vs Superman Race:


Waiting for the film to get to cable... despite the horrible reviews... i'll attempt to watch it and see for myself.

-C!
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The movie wasn't half bad, but the after credits scene got me laughing loud : here you have a movie where heroes were fighting a god, and next we are promised to watch them fight Lex Luthor (again) and some mercenaries...
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I've heard that Jason Mamoa will be wearing something like the traditional orange-and-green Aquaman suit in the AQUAMAN movie. Anyone else have details?
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He is wearing the traditional suit. I would categorize the top as more of a burnished golden than orange, but it's definitely scaled. He has the green leggings, complete with the fins on the calves. There is some additional detailing on the fins and leggings. In my opinion, the suit is a good translation, but Momoa still wears the long hair and goatee.

Black Manta, from what I saw, looks awesome-- complete with the helmet. From what I understand, there are two versions of the headgear; at some point in the story, he modifies an initial prototype to look like the traditional version. It's a bit sleeker than the comics but otherwise, I was surprised at how accurate this version looked.

Ocean Master has the mask, the cape and the trident. His overall suit looked more armored than any version I've seen in the books. At one point in the story he uses the trident to inflict some serious damage to incapacitate a large military vessel (I'll leave it at that), in order to show how powerful and dangerous these underwater dwellers can be.

I have no idea how the final film will turn out, but I was encouraged by what I've seen.
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At the moment, in the comics, Arthur has long hair and a beard. (No hook-hand this time, though.) So Momoa's costume sounds fine by me.

Now if only he's written like Aquaman.
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Another detail: the fins on the leggings point upward, not down, as in the comics. And they don't end in only one single point-- but rather, are serrated, like a big steak knife.

Black Manta's costume appears to be a series of segmented plating assembled over a skintight wetsuit. While the helmet is very sleek, I think the actual suit itself looks a bit bulkier than the books--but still absolutely recognizable as the character. The eyes are the classic red and he has companion red vents on either side of his ribcage, which read to me like "gills".
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 Matt Reed wrote:
He was included for the reason you think he was and yes, Static would have been a much better choice.



Ugh. No thank you. Static doesn't need to be force-fed into the DC Universe
(either the comics or the movies). I would love a live-action STATIC film, but
I'd prefer it to be part of a MILESTONE CINEMATIC UNIVERSE, where all of 
those heroes can shine on their own, which will never happen as part of DC. 
The logical choice for diversifying the Justice League is the one the same 
choice made in the best animated series, ever. 
JOHN STEWART, GREEN LANTERN. 
[Had to edit this post, forcing breaks in the sentences, because it caused a weird formatting issue~Matt]

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Just streamed it, as it was on special offer, it was not
as bad as i expected! Loved the 1989 Batman theme being
used, now if only they`d used the 1978 Superman theme
too!
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Bill - they did a (very subtle) callback to the Williams theme during the big fight scene after the resurrection.  Listen closely!
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It must have been VERY subtle Dave! I will listen again!
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Yeah, it's there. 

The BATMAN theme is more prominent. But hey, it's Danny Elfman using Danny Elfman...so it's probably going to be... 
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Bill - I just realized it's in there a second time, right when Superman makes his first appearance to take on Steppenwolf.
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And just to pour salt in a previously opened wound on this thread - Justice League is officially the lowest grossing of the DCEU films.

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This "Superman" doesn't deserve the John Williams music.
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Perhaps. But I loved hearing the BATMAN theme...probably the best thing to come out of the '89 movie. 

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This "Superman" doesn't deserve the John Williams music.

My mind immediatley lept to Zod in SUPERMAN II:

"This...'Super-Man' is nothing of the kind!"
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