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Posted: 19 April 2017 at 11:26am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I no longer remember the exact date, but within the next two or three weeks we should be drifting thru the 40th Anniversary of my start on (Not Yet UNCANNY) X-MEN.

Yeesh!!!

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This issue was your first? Cover date is DEC 1977... so you accepted the assignment around that spring?


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This issue was your first? Cover date is DEC 1977... so you accepted the assignment around that spring?

I accepted the assignment some time in late 1976. Archie Goodwin was inspired to recreate the Claremont/Byrne/Austin team after seeing our work on STARLORD.

It was in the early Spring that I started work on the project.

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Archie Goodwin was smart.
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"Uncanny X-Men" #108 was JB's first issue on the title. JB's first published Marvel comic with the (then) new X-Men was in "Marvel Team-Up" #53 (cover date January 1977):




And though the story takes place after "Uncanny X-Men" #108, "Iron Fist" #15 came out earlier (cover date September 1977):




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That new Wolverine costume Cockrum made was not one of his finest. Glad JB changed it back pretty soon afterwards. By the way, was that your call, JB?
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Archie Goodwin was smart.

*****

Goodwin was the first editor that I noticed, probably because of his intros in the Epic line of comics, which I read voraciously at the time.  I also liked his writing and the fact that "Archie Goodwin was inspired to recreate the Claremont/Byrne/Austin" proves that he did have great editing instincts, to say the least. 
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I seem to recall something odd about Wolverine's claws in MTU #53.
Was there a panel that showed his claws rather short?  

Am I dreaming this or is it real?  If it was real...was there an explanation or reason? 
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David, I know the panew you are thinking about with Wolverine's claws. I thought it was meant to show the claws just beginning to pop out.
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You are correct, Matt.
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That new Wolverine costume Cockrum made was not one of his finest. Glad JB changed it back pretty soon afterwards. By the way, was that your call, JB?

Dave showed me a model sheet he'd done of the Fang suit. "This is Wolverine's new costume," he said. "It's a bear to draw." I walked across the hall to Archie's office and told him I thought it was unfair that Dave should make such a radical change in the character right before leaving the book. Archie shrugged and told me to change it back if I wanted.

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When did the idea for your brown costume start, JB?
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I felt this worthy of adding to this thread....

John Byrne on getting assigned X-Men:

"The way I usually phrase it is, I had threatened everybody at the office with bodily harm if Dave Cockrum ever left the book and it didn't come to me! ...With lousy distribution in Canada and weird Canadian postal service stuff - which said that first issues don't count as periodicals, so they don't allow them into the country - I very rarely got any issue #1s. But X-Men I picked up from the very first issue, and I was totally blown away by it. I just fell in love with the characters. When I finally got to do the book, it wasn't really them. It was something called X-Men, but it had Cyclops and he was the one that counted as far as I was concerned." 

Also, JB's letter to the readers (notice the date):


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The letter was written 2 weeks before STAR WARS hit the theaters.

The Dec 1977 cover date meant that the issue probably hit the specialty shops in Aug '77 and newsstands one month later.
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Did the specialty shops get them a month early that far back?  My recollection is the newsstand got the books 4 months ahead of the cover date. 
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For about the first decade of my comic-reading life (starting in '78), nearly every monthly book was dated three months in advance. That started to change in the late '80s, when some books (like the Spider-Man titles every summer) went twice-weekly. Then, around 1989/'90. DC made a subtle change to dating one month in advance.
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When did the idea for your brown costume start, JB?

Around about the time I first saw the costume, in THE INCREDBILE HULK. "A yellow and blue wolverine??" I thought. The seeds were planted then -- with no notion that I might ever do anything about it!

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I was so blown away with X-men 108 when i bought it off the shelf. I liked Cockrum's art but JB raised the bar. 40 year's ..imagine if Claremont left and JB stayed on.





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If JB had stayed on X-MEN longer, I would've been quite committed to the book. Especially with some of the ideas he had brewing.

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...imagine if Claremont left and JB stayed on.

Never a real option. Chris had so poisoned that well, for me, that there was no desire to stay.

And, as I noted many times, without me in the way he went on to turn the X-Men's book into one of the most successful up to that time.

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Imagine if JB had never moved over to FF?

No thanks.
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Imagine if JB had never moved over to FF?

No thanks.

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Exactly.

Now if JB had been inclined (and permitted to do both books...
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And Hulk. And Captain America...
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Yes, I seem to recall that Mr. Byrne was, at one point, drawing X-Men, Avengers, AND Fantastic Four. And maybe Marvel Team-Up at the same time also.

I just wonder when he had the extra two arms removed...
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Amazing Spider-Man #102. 

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