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John Byrne
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New York Times

Step in the right direction.

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Michael Roberts
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The Liberty Place monument had an inscription that explicitly
celebrated white supremacy: "United States troops took over the state
government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election
November 1876 recognized white supremacy in the South and gave us
our state."

If the monuments' defenders were truly concerned about "preserving
history", they'd want those things in a museum with context about how
they were erected by white supremacists trying to deny the reality of
the Southern secession.
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Brandon Scott Berthelot
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Im from the area so I have been following this for
awhile. Very much in favor of the removal.

I find it funny that the most rah rah Merica F yeah
folks are also the most pro confederacy. I love to tell
them that they might as well be erecting monuments to
Osama Bin Laden (not very accurate, but gets them riled
up).
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John Byrne
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Tell them John Wilkes Booth. That might scratch their façade.
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Eric Smearman
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The only Confederate flag I recognize is the white one they waved in
surrender.
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Michael Hogan
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By the way, JB, I know it was inadvertent, but I love "Momuments" in
the thread title. I think I'll use it on Mother's Day!
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Steven Myers
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There seem to be two types of southerners. those who want to move on and not dwell on the past because they have moved beyond the racism that prevailed in those times, and those who WON'T LET IT GO!.

And then they don't understand why they're the butt of so many jokes. Not just from us Yankees, but from all over the world.
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Brian O'Neill
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Putting aside the ideologies for a second, it's just...hella fuckin' dumb...to glorify being a loser to the extent that all these mouth-breathing Confederacy/Nazi apologists have done it.
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John Popa
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"The only Confederate flag I recognize is the white one they waved in surrender."

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This is the perfect summation of the situation.
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Christopher Frost
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I often see people using the Confederate flag as their profile picture on things like Facebook and whenever they get called out on it, their typical response is to call it a symbol of Southern Pride and then attack the people criticizing them for using it. Sure, the flag might have represented that at one time, but it's been co-opted by the white supremacist movement over the years and has an ugly association with racism, bigotry and slavery as a result. People that use it or display it are obviously aware of it's negative connotations and are doing so to provoke a reaction from others despite their claims to the contrary. The ever increasing attitude emerging in society these days seems to be very ugly and has a strong undercurrent of divisiveness and "f*** you if you don't like it". It saddens me as humanity is capable of such greatness and instead all we seem to do is attack each other at every turn.
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Michael Penn
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This is progress.

Coincidentally, my friend sent me the pictures below that a passenger in his wife's car snapped just yesterday around noon while they were driving from Myrtle Beach.
...can you imagine the effort it took to make this gesture in the middle of a regular work day?

How much of a battle it will still be to change hearts and minds...!?
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Fred J Chamberlain
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Michael, you are assuming that they work, work days, etc.
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