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David Miller
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Posted: 25 October 2017 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply


I finally pinned down where I got the crazy idea Replicants were robots:

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Posted: 25 October 2017 at 8:13pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I don't think anybody realized we were actually seeing a young M. Emmet Walsh in Blade Runner.
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Posted: 25 October 2017 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

That's the thing--the use of "Robot evolution" and "skin jobs" indicates Terminator-esque cyborgs to the casual viewer. But, no, the Replicants are flesh and blood. Genetically-engineered. Not, robots, not cyborgs. More akin to mass-produced Khan Noonien Singhs than T-800s.

I think a lot of people have gone out of their way to miss the point: Replicants are only different from humans because people say they are. Their origins are artifical, yes, but they clearly have the same mental, emotional, and physical capabilities. Indeed, they have superhuman versions of those capabilities. They're not automatons.


One oddity in 2049 is the central premise of Wallace being unable to make Replicants who can reproduce. I'd always had the impression from the original film that the Replicants were deliberately made sterile, as a precaution. 2049 indicates that Rachael's fertility was instead some kind of scientific breakthrough made by Tyrell, which had been lost after his death.
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Posted: 26 October 2017 at 4:36am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

2049's 3 hour 4 minute program length

Over here the length is 2h43mn. Already several versions ?
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Posted: 26 October 2017 at 4:38am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

One (stupid) question : Are replicants able to distinguish other replicants ?
K-Joe does when talking to Luv.

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I think Joi is an interesting character. Her naming of K as Joe seems spontaneous but then the advert also names him Joe.

A good, subtle piece raising the question of just how much of what appears to be spontaneous and growth in an AI, is actually reverting to programming.

I liked that


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Posted: 26 October 2017 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Me too, James. As I stated earlier that was a nice subtle bit. Though maybe subtle is the wrong word for a giant naked hologram. The dialogue was subtle at least. And the visual of the holographic image was gorgeous as the actress playing it.

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Posted: 26 October 2017 at 10:59pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Turns out I thought I had read the posts on page 4 when in fact I clearly had not. Apologies to Greg and Shane.

Think youíre being clever and making a point no one has and then you find out there is an entire page on the discussion. Iíll be in the corner learning to read
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