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Anthony J Lombardi
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Well this is a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. I'm not committed to following the series again. My faith in the creators involved only goes so far. So I am willing to give their first issue a look that's it. Each subsequent issue will have to win me over before I'll be willing to get the next one.
http://www.comicsbeat.com/good-news-mark-waid-and-chris-samn ee-on-captain-america-starting-in-november/
Edited by Anthony J Lombardi on 22 July 2017 at 1:07pm
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Joe Smith
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Count me as a convert to the Sam Wilson book.
I came for the Immonen art, but, I stayed for stories that weren't so whitebread.
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John Byrne
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What had been so "whitebread" about Captain America?
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Stephen Churay
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The Waid/Samnee run of Daredevil was the
one book by Marvel I felt I could read a
few years back as it stayed away from the
rest of Marvel's dreck. It was tame enough
that I was ok with mh 8 yr old picking it
up, even if the content was a bit older
than him.
Waid has proven, to me, that he can write
Captain America. His first run with Garney
was the best the book had been in a while.
His second run, while still good, was more
of an examination of who Captain America
is, instead of just writing good adventure
stories.
I look forward to reading his next bite at
the apple. He's got a hell of a task
bringing that character back from the
crappy story he's apart of now.
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Robbie Parry
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Bought some WHAT IF? books at a car boot sale over the weekend. I don't wish to engage in thread drift, but decades ago, the whole "Cap was HYDRA all along" would have been a tale, or back-up tale, in one of those WHAT IF? issues. As would a lot of modern stories.
Instead, what would have once, in my opinion, been a WHAT IF? tale is now a months-long arc.
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Anthony J Lombardi
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e WHAT IF? books at a car boot sale over the weekend. I don't wish to engage in thread drift, but decades ago, the whole "Cap was HYDRA all along" would have been a tale, or back-up tale, in one of those WHAT IF? issues. As would a lot of modern stories.
Instead, what would have once, in my opinion, been a WHAT IF? tale is now a months-long arc. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That's where this story should have started and ended.
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Stephen Churay
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Yep, too many What If stories bleeding into the actual
Marvel U has been it's. Downfall for about 15 yrs. Just
because you CAN tell a story, doesn't mean you SHOULD
tell that story.
Back during Heroes Return, we got some great creative
teams bringing books back from the depths of Image.
Hopefully, this is the first of similar teams bringing
these books back. But, I am in no way holding my breath.
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Shawn Kane
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They're attempting a back to basics with the X-Men right now with X-Men Gold being the one that I'm trying out. I trust Marc Guggenheim more than just about any other writer at Marvel and it feels like the X-Men a lot more than anything they've done in years. I would normally have faith that Waid could do that as well but I've browsed his Avengers and don't really like it.
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Joe Zhang
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I wouldn't touch anything Marvel until the current editorial regime and their "go-to" writers are gone. Virtually everything they have done over the decades are counter to what I am looking for in a Marvel comic book story. I don't expect them to change stripes, even over poor sales.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 22 July 2017 at 5:42pm
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Joe Smith
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Remender's 2014 Dr. Mind bubble and Klein's 2014 Gungnir storylines
were near indecipherable to this 30+ year reader of CAPTAIN
AMERICA. They were completely out of character for CA IMO, and
more tailored towards an issue of 1980's MTU. Wilson was immediately
made CA, and the stories changed with the new creators. CAPTAIN
AMERICA contained stories ripped from the fabric of today's news and
tragic events. Sam dealt with the death of loyalty, legacy, and friends.
Misty Knight became a major player, and above all, the PTB let them
run without TOO much interference in major crossovers. Sam tried to
really be our Captain while Steve Rogers became Nick Fury.
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Bob Harvey
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I wish there was such a thing as a mainstream book in black and white. Samnee's art really suffers from coloring.
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Wallace Sellars
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Every time I give Marvel another chance, I get burned.
The last trick I fell for was Javier Rodriguez and Dennis Hoeless' SPIDER-
WOMAN. The art was spectacular! The writing was sensational! And it was
amazing that there were no crossovers! Until... There was one crossover…
Then another… And Rodriguez was replaced by less impressive artists....
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