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Colin Ian Campbell Byrne Robotics Member
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Greer Garson/the Cat was a failed super-heroine with a good design (but, still, something was off). ----------------- I think you mean Greer Nelson, whose name was probably inspired by Greer Garson, and/or Germanine Greer.
Edited by Colin Ian Campbell on 26 July 2017 at 3:02pm
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 July 2017 at 2:37pm | IP Logged | 2
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Matthew Wilkie Byrne Robotics Member
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Old br'er Hawkeye worked better as a hero than a villain, I feel.
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Hawkeye was my choice too but in a different way. At the risk of getting shot down, whilst I really liked the old purple costumed Clint, his reinvention by Matt Fraction (and more recently others) with Kate Bishop as his sidekick has, for me, taken the character to anotherlevel and one of the few good things that has come out of Marvel in recent years.
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 July 2017 at 10:30am | IP Logged | 4
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Regarding my choice (Mar-Vell), I ordered the ESSENTIAL CAPTAIN MARVEL via Amazon and have read the first 18 or so issues.
I have enjoyed the progression of Kree soldier to Mar-Vell/Rick Jones.
It had to happen, I feel. The first dozen or so issues feature the Kree soldier battling alien threats, rogue elements within the Kree, etc. It's enjoyable, but when the change came to the Nega-Bands/Rick Jones stuff, it's been welcomed by me.
I hope there's a second volume.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 30 July 2017 at 10:39am | IP Logged | 5
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Barbara Gordon gets her spine damaged -- crippled for life!Batman gets his back broken -- but gets better. Misogeny 'r' us.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 30 July 2017 at 10:43am | IP Logged | 6
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PHOENIX--Jean Grey was pretty and Marvel Girl was...not that great. Then, she became Phoenix and became amazing. Instead of being killed, she should have (could have) been given her own comic and become Marvel's own Wonder Woman. (But every version of her that came in the years after paled in comparison.)••• Jean was a curious case. Stan actually DOWNSCALED her powers, establishing her telekenisis could lift no more than her own weight -- after Jack had drawn her casually lifting a gaggle of teenage girls who were mobbing Angel.
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Michael Abbey Byrne Robotics Member
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Swamp Thing. I thought Alan Moore's reinvention of the character was brilliant.
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Adam Schulman: "Eric -- the Green Arrow you love is the one currently appearing in GREEN ARROW. And I'm enjoying it very much."
Thanks for the heads up! I checked this out a couple of days ago at the comic shop. I'm glad you're enjoying it (and I couldn't tell from a quick look--maybe the story is amazing), but this is the "old guy in a hood" from the 90's, not the dashing 70's guy in the amazing Neal Adams-designed archer's suit with the Robin Hood hat. Still, it was nice to see Mike Grell covers...BUT also annoying! I believe that Grell was the force behind GA going the "baggy tunic and unwieldy hood" route in the first place--EVEN THOUGH he was the only one (besides Adams himself) who could really draw the Adams suit well! (OK, I liked Dick Dillin's version too!)
Maybe storywise this IS the same character (they've invalidated the last three reboots, right?)--good old Ollie Queen: clean-shaven in his 20's, bearded & dashing in his 30's, and hooded and baggy in his 40's--but, if you're going to right the ship, why not right the ship all the way?
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Michael Murphy Byrne Robotics Member
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There are a few I liked better after they changed.
-Adam Warlock was previously mentioned and I agree with that.
-Nightwing is another one I like more after his change. For as many problems that started when Dick went from Robin to Nightwing I always liked the second identity better.
-Sue storm, for reasons already stated.
-Oracle. I always felt she was a richer character than Batgirl regardless of the other problems that crop up around her.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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I prefer all of the original X-Men at their initial power levels, and think those early stories are underrated. I have heard the criticism that Stan and Jack's X- MEN wasn't as good as their FANTASTIC FOUR, but that's almost an unfair comparison. I can't think of anything that can truly compete with that first 100 issues as a whole!)
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Brian O'Neill Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 July 2017 at 6:06pm | IP Logged | 11
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I've seen the "Greer Garson/Nelson" mixup here and there online, and even in pre-internet times.
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Adam Schulman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 30 July 2017 at 11:25pm | IP Logged | 12
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Eric -- as currently written Oliver is no older than most of the other major DC superheroes. I wish the Neal Adams costume would return too, but then again I also wish Batman would go back to one of his traditional costumes without all the extra lines and WITH black trunks. [See also: Flash (Barry Allen).]
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