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Matthew Wilkie
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I often wile away idle moments by thinking of the titles that JB has created and how they fit together. I keep wondering if I might have missed one or two, so thought I'd share my musings and invite all to fill in any gaps I might have left.

For me, the this extended universe has three parts:

Part 1:

Next Men
2112
The High Ways (featuring Next Men's Eddie Wallace)
Finder of Lost Children (online only)

Part 2:

(These titles exist, I assume, as comics in Next Men's universe given the Hellboy's existence in magazines there whilst being a peer of DU and Babe.)

Danger Unlimited
Babe

Part 3:

(These titles exist in parallel universe to that of DU, as stated when Golgotha travelled from one to another.)

Trio 
Triple Helix
Lab Rats (featuring Trio's Quinlan)
Conclave (soon to be published by IDW ;) )

So indulge me, and/or write me off as having  too much time on my hands, what have I have missed?








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As a very subtle "branding", I had Dark Horse and IDW use a specific font to letter NEXT MEN. In fact, I call it my NEXT MEN font!

It took a great deal of self control on my part not to use that font on my STAR TREK books!

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Great idea Matthew. I'd love to imagine a crossover between many of these characters.
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Hey Matthew, where would Torch of Liberty go?
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How about Doctor Trogg?
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I had Dark Horse and IDW use a specific font to letter NEXT MEN. In fact, I call it my NEXT MEN font!

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I remember that. Was it based on lettering you had done by hand?
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Matthew Wilkie
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Hey Matthew, where would Torch of Liberty go?

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Good shout - I'd forgotten ToL. He would sit in Part 2 - or perhaps Tier 2 is a better description.
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How about Doctor Trogg?

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I didn't include anyone that hadn't appeared in their own title (such as the female Human Torch whose names escapes me) but Trogg does raise an interesting question: Does he exist in the same comic book world as DU and Hellboy or does he exist with a different (imaginary) publisher? This is possible, given that Elf Quest featured in Next Men.

This also brings up the question of Vanguard. Given that he is also made real in Next Men, I assume he also exists in the comics of that world. As a member of Conclave, then that would suggest all those in Part 3 also do.
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Might need a fourth tier for agent Michael Swann
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Might need a fourth tier for agent Michael Swann

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There is Doomsday.1 too. I guess I was thinking of the creator owned titles where there was a crossover with another.
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John Byrne, of all the these creations, which one were you most satisfied with?
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A thought: has any other single creator helmed as many titles that exist within the same universe? 
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"Byrneverse" has quite a ring to it. If our host were to ever write a detailed history of his characters, for publication in a coffee table book, "History Of The Byrneverse" would be a good title. 
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"There is Doomsday.1 too. I guess I was thinking of the creator owned titles where there was a crossover with another. "

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Ah, but there is;

Major Natasha Orlova (Cold War) was Colonel Yuri Kunov's (Doomsday.1) Aunt.


what.....not buying it?  ;-)
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I like the idea of Swann and the cast Doomsday.1 featuring in the comic books that Danny read in Next Men. 
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So just remembered M4 which was a back-up strip in Next Men and existed very much in their universe.

And what was the strip (appearing in Babe?) that featured a girl and her robot sidekicks? Was never explicit that it crossed over with any other title though so not sure it makes the Byrneverse (for me)!
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"Byrneverse" has quite a ring to it.

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Not sure if he coined it, but Wallace would appear to be the first to use the term Byrneverse on this site way back in 2007.
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Betcha won't be surprised that there are those who dismiss such silhouette shots as me being "lazy".
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Hey, JB, think you may have strayed across threads!
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Not sure if he coined it, but Wallace would appear to be the first to use
the term Byrneverse on this site way back in 2007.

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I think I was repeating a term JB had already used.
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Hey, JB, think you may have strayed across threads!

How DOES that happen??

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"And what was that strip (appearing in Babe?) that featured a girl and
her robot sidekicks?"

Proto Tykes?
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PROTOtykes to get all anal about it. One word, first five letters ALL CAPS.
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"Byrneverse" has quite a ring to it.

But how is it pronounced? Even I am inclined to sound the "E" in the middle.

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I see it as two separate words kinda portmanteaued together. Byrne + verse... you know, like Mr. Byrne's novels. :D
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