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Brian Rhodes
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Posted: 11 December 2018 at 11:44am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Thinking Captain Marvel was Shazam was akin to thinking the Human Torch was called "Flame On!"

Which isn't to say there weren't kids who thought that...
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Jabari Lamar
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Posted: 11 December 2018 at 2:06pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Probably even more so if the Human Torch had, since the 1970's, starred in cartoons, live-action series, comics, & children's books, as well as sold as individual action figures, that were all titled "Flame On!"
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Ed Love
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Posted: 13 December 2018 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I believe the reasoning of the name change because of confusion is just blowing smoke. Once you read the comic or actually watch the opening minutes of the tv show, it's clear that the name is "Captain Marvel" and Shazam is the word he says (as well as what Gomer Pyle says). And, no one seems to be concerned about those same clueless individuals wondering why he'd name himself after a music app. Since the people who thought the name was Shazam are obviously not the ones enticed to picking up the comic or watching the show, changing the name to Shazam to accommodate them makes no sense. If anything, that would indicate they have a problem with the name being Shazam as it didn't induce them to pick up the product and quickly learn differently.

The problem is not so much Marvel has a trademark on "Captain Marvel" but simply the Marvel trademark itself. They successfully got the UK Marvelman changed to Miracle Man when printed in the US. A superhero with the word "Marvel" in their name is going to be associated with the Marvel comics company by the general public which barely knows there is a difference between DC and Marvel and which characters beyond the top few are at which company. With the movies that Marvel brand-name and trademark has gotten all the stronger. Between that and Marvel being owned by The Mouse, gone are the days DC could comfortably get by with simply having the title be "Shazam" and the character inside the pages be "Captain Marvel" though technically legal.
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Brian Hague
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Posted: 13 December 2018 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I'm with Ed on this one. It takes zero effort once you're watching a "Shazam" TV show or reading a "Shazam" comic to realize the main character's name is not Shazam. Only those lacking any interest in watching or reading would come to such a conclusion.

That being said, for whatever reason, DC has clearly decided to throw the character under the bus and just marry the character and franchise names into one so as to no longer disturb the weak minded.

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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 14 December 2018 at 9:09am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

It does seem somewhat similar to thinking that readers/viewers can't discern that Superman is from Krypton but Clark Kent is from Earth. I mean, Fawcett and then DC used to have a little info square* explaining Captain Marvel's origin in brief. How much of a challenge is: "When Billy Batson and his sister Mary say the name of the wizard Shazam, and Freddy Freeman says the name of his hero, they are transformed into Captain Marvel, Mary Marvel, and Captain Marvel Jr. - the mighty Marvel Family!"

If the product is presented properly, it would be a great effort to get it wrong.

*Incidentally, this was around the time that DC started having a splash page header for all of their features (or most that I recall.) "Rocketed to Earth when the planet Krypton, Kal-El gained super powers and now, disguised as mild mannered reporter Clark Kent,  fights never-ending battle for truth, justice, and the American way as the Man of Steel, Superman!" A lightning fast introduction that quickly describes the character. Not as necessary for Superman as Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, or Metamorpho, granted, but still - hardly confusing!

I see no reason that Captain Marvel has to be any harder than that.
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