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Philip Obaza
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Posted: 05 November 2017 at 12:06pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Seeing as we now have seventeen(!) Marvel Cinematic Universe films 
and it's 2017, I thought it'd be fun to go through and rank all the films 
up to this point.* 

Here's my list from best down to least:

Iron Man
Captain America: Civil War
Guardians of the Galaxy
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Spider-Man: Homecoming
The Avengers
Thor: Ragnarok
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Thor
Doctor Strange
Captain America: The First Avenger
Ant-Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Iron Man 2

*Only including films related to the MCU. So no X-Men, FF, Ghost 
Rider, older Spider-Films, etc.


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Iron Man
Avengers
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Captain ~America: Civil War
Captain America: The First Avenger
Guardians of the Galaxy
Thor: Ragnarok
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Ant-Man
Thor
Doctor Strange
Spider-Man: Homecoming
The Incredible Hulk
Thor: The Dark World
Iron Man 2
Iron Man 3

I think Iron Man got worse with each sequel but really think the character got back on track in Civil War. The latest Thor film is the most enjoyable one of those.
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Edited to include Thor: Ragnarok, which I saw this evening  -

Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Iron Man
Captain America: Civil War
The Avengers
Guardians of the Galaxy
Doctor Strange
Captain America: The First Avenger
Thor: Ragnarok
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Ant-Man
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Thor
Iron Man 3
The Incredible Hulk
Thor: The Dark World
Iron Man 2



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Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Iron Man
The Avengers
Thor: Ragnarok
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Doctor Strange
Captain America: Civil War
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Ant-Man
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Thor: The Dark World
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
Iron Man 3

I've enjoyed all the movies to differing degrees. The only two things that still bug me to this day are Captain America: The First Avenger Musical and Iron Man 3 with the fake Mandarin.



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Tough, and it'll be different tomorrow, but here goes:

Captain America: Civil War
The Avengers
Ant-Man
Captain America: Winter Soldier
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Guardians of the Galaxy
Iron Man
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Captain America: The First Avenger
Thor: Ragnarok
The Incredible Hulk
Thor: The Dark World
Iron Man 2
Thor
Doctor Strange
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Iron Man 3
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Robert Bradley
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> I've enjoyed all the movies to differing degrees. The only two things that still bug me to this day are Captain America: The First Avenger Musical and Iron Man 3 with the fake Mandarin.

That's pretty fair - the CA: First Avenger war bond show didn't bother me as much as the Mandarin did, but I can see why other people would feel more strongly about it.

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Brian Hague
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This is odd looking over everyone's lists. There are still several of these I haven't seen, and while I remember enjoying the experience of watching the others pretty much, there are also things that bothered me about each of them as well. Determining a list of favorites would entail balancing how much this element of this one annoyed me vs. how much that part of that one fell flat... I think I'll just leave it at saying that I had a great time at the first Avengers, Captain America: Winter Soldier, and Doctor Strange and leave the rest of it alone.

I like all of the ones I've seen to some extent, seen a couple of them twice at friends' houses, but I don't revisit these films at all myself.

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That's pretty fair - the CA: First Avenger war bond show didn't bother me as much as the Mandarin did, but I can see why other people would feel more strongly about it.

Mucking up a third-rate villain bothers you more than mucking up Captain America.

That just makes me sad.

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Take the war bond scene purely as a scene in the film and no problem with it at all. Cap himself is nothing but frustrated with that whole episode and at no point justifies it in a manner that makes you believe HE believes what he is saying - see the dancing monkey scene
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Or, more accurately, the government was miffed that the Super-Soldier formula was lost, and so they relegated the forumla's one and only success to being a mere entertainer.

Instead of making use of him as, y'know, a super-soldier, and as a symbol for people to rally behind, as in the comics.
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And the filmmakers decided to represent this by shitting all over Joe Simon and Jack Kirby.
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Greg - The U.S. sold over $180 billion in war bonds during WWII, so they took it very seriously.  I could certainly see them considering him as useful to them as a tool for propaganda as he would be as a frontline soldier.

And understandably the changes are going to be a touchy subject to any fan who loves Captain America, but they're trying to sell a movie to a public in 2011 rather than sell comics to kids in 1941.

With the money involved now I think we can all understand why the tail is wagging the dog -  because the movies make a great deal more for Marvel than their publishing ever has.
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So, they create a super-solider, but don't send him after the Nazis? In what world does that make sense? 

Cap might well have been an effective homeland propaganda tool, but his special abilities would be far more useful in strategic operations overseas.
Which they were, in the comics. The government may not have been able to create an army of Super-Soldiers, but they absolutely made the most out of the one they had.
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Captain America The Winter Soldier
The Avengers
Iron Man
Captain America Civil War
Thor Ragnarok
Guardians Of The Galaxy
Captain America The First Avenger
Doctor Strange
Ant Man
Thor
Spider-Man Homecoming
Avengers Age Of Ultron
Thor The Dark World
Iron Man 3
Iron Man 2
Incredible Hulk

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Sure, Greg. The United States would never shortsightedly squander a strategic asset during wartime, like by putting Captain America in a war bonds show or segregating the armed forces and relegating 2.5 million African American soldiers to non-combat roles.


Guardians Of The Galaxy
Spider-Man Homecoming
Iron Man 3
Guardians Of The Galaxy 2
Thor Ragnarok
Ant Man
Doctor Strange
Captain America Civil War
Captain America The Winter Soldier
The Avengers
Iron Man
Captain America The First Avenger
Avengers Age Of Ultron
Thor
Incredible Hulk
Thor The Dark World
Iron Man 2


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And understandably the changes are going to be a touchy subject to any fan who loves Captain America, but they're trying to sell a movie to a public in 2011 rather than sell comics to kids in 1941.

And why does this require deliberately making the original uniform look like crap?

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And understandably the changes are going to be a touchy subject to any fan who loves Captain America, but they're trying to sell a movie to a public in 2011 rather than sell comics to kids in 1941.

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A booklet that was inside a SUPERMAN CD (the movie music) had some thoughts from the Salkinds and others, all of whom wanted to respect the mythos and Superman. They succeeded.

I cannot help but think if a Superman movie was being made for the first time today, a bean-counter, bureaucrat or producer/director/writer might well say, "We really can't sell that Superman costume to a 2017 audience. We're gonna have to change it." And I find that sad. 
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Robbie - didn't that exact thing happen with Man of Steel? Or was that necessitated by the court case?
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I don't know much about the behinds-the-scene stuff, James, nor the court case. Perhaps someone else will.
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The War Bond Captain America didn't make ANY sense. For propaganda purposes they could have put anyone in the suit. But only Steve Rogers is Captain America on the battle field. 

IMO, the movie audience should never laugh AT the heroes. We should never think, even for instant, they are buffoons. We can laugh with them, but not at them. It's a shame when they do it in the comics and especially bad when they do it in a movie.


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"IMO, the movie audience should never laugh AT the heroes. We should never think, even for instant, they are buffoons."
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This was my problem with the mentioned scenes in Captain America First Avenger and most of Thor Ragnarok.
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Tough. I'm going to list my favorites. I mean, I would agree with a lot of people that IRON MAN is the best film made of a Marvel property, ever. But THE AVENGERS just brings everyone together splendidly. The first really big payoff in the Marvel Studios gambit. CIVIL WAR was the second.

I'm a Hulk guy, that's also why THE AVENGERS hits the top. And why AGE OF ULTRON may be higher than on other lists. That love puts THOR: RAGNAROK in the Top 5. And keeps THE INCREDIBLE HULK in my Top 10 (breaks my heart that it seems to pop in the bottom 3 or most lists).

I think the Guardians movies are good, but, they don't seem like "superhero" movies to me. Maybe I'll feel differently after INFINITY WAR.

THE AVENGERS
CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR
IRON MAN
THOR: RAGNAROK
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER
AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON
THE INCREDIBLE HULK
ANT-MAN
DOCTOR STRANGE
SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL 2
THOR
IRON MAN 2
IRON MAN 3
THOR: THE DARK WORLD

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I enjoyed all of these movies to varying degrees. I wouldn't call any of the 17 (!!!) movies straight up "bad". 

That's an incredible accomplishment. 

(But also I wouldn't say any of them is "brilliant", neither)


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The only thing I liked about IRON MAN 3 was that it featured a technology-based Tony Stark being shellshocked after having to process the concept of people with actual super-powers, Norse Gods and alien beings existing after the AVENGERS movie.
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Favorites:
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER
AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON

Good fun:
THE INCREDIBLE HULK
THE AVENGERS
IRON MAN 3
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
ANT-MAN
CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR
SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING
THOR: RAGNAROK

Mediocre:
THOR
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER
DOCTOR STRANGE (really don't like Cumberbatch in the role)

Least favorites:
IRON MAN 2 (a mess; Mickey Rourke is terrible)
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY, VOL. 2 (thoroughly obnoxious)
THOR: THE DARK WORLD (boring, dull, unmemorable)

The crown jewel:
IRON MAN 
(the closest any Marvel Studios movie comes to being an all-around great film!)




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