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John Byrne
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Robbie Parry
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I hate to judge, but I can't help think (it's happened here, too) that they are preventable.
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John Byrne
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I hate to judge, but I can't help think (it's happened here, too) that they are preventable.•• Having a Pitbull is like having a gun in the house. Maybe nothing will happen. But if it does, you can be certain it will be a tragedy.
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Robbie Parry
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I tend to err on the side of caution. I live alone currently, but I've looked after nieces/nephews.
I mean, there was a rabbit roaming free around a 1-year old niece of mine once. A rabbit probably couldn't do too much damage, but I never want to presume anything. Maybe a rabbit couldn't cause fatalities, but it could possibly scratch or something.
I think when there are most animals around kids, you have to be extra-cautious (I say most as something like a goldfish in a bowl couldn't cause problems).
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Bill Collins
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We give dogs squeaky toys to play with then leave them
unattended with squeaky kids.Pit Bull type dogs are
banned in the U.K. but certain types still acquire them
and other breeds that could be considered dangerous.All
dogs have the possibility of being a danger to
children,especially when left alone with them.
When we were courting,my wife had an old,bald toothless
Daschound,he was so very docile,but one day one of my
wife`s brother`s friends did something to him that made
him snap back(I think he flicked his nuts),obviously he
could do no harm,but kids can tease and hurt them on the
sly.
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David Miller
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Most pit bulls I've met have been friendly if powerful doggie-dogs who reflected the majesty of nurture over nature. But man, when the evolutionary wires cross, or worse, when they're trained to kill, watch the fuck out.
Any breed is capable. My family adopted a couple pound mutts over the years (a schnoodle and a lab-rottweiler) who thanks to obvious abuse were capable of murder. There were some triggers we learned to keep the dogs away from, like the schnoodle hated tow-headed kids and the lab-rott didn't like the base of his tail touched or when someone changed the tv channel while he was watching, but sometimes they just lost their shit for no obvious reason and we had to defend ourselves.
Edited by David Miller on 21 January 2018 at 3:08pm
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Doug Centers
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As a parent there are certain breeds you just cannot take a chance with, especially with smaller children.
According to the article the father said they had the dog for only 5 days, meaning it was not a puppy. I hate to judge also but you bring into your household an older Pit Bull, what are you thinking?
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Richard White
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I've been disgusted when I've walked down the street and seen kids as young as 7 or 8 walking dogs like this and similar. It's madness.
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Trevor Smith
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I find too many people don't bother to learn about dogs
period before taking them in, let alone the particulars
of a breed. I have an *adorable* Boston Terrier. Those
big, round expressive eyes will simply melt the heart.
But I've watched him with his toys, and the built-in,
predatory, fighting dog nature is SO obviously still
there.
On a couple of occasions I've had to ask parents that
have let their children get down on their hands and
knees to go face to face with my guy to maybe please not
let them do that.
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David Miller
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Yeah, my schnoodle would actually sit adorably to lure her prey into leaning their faces inside her bite range.
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Jean-Francois Joutel
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Ontario has had a ban on pit bulls since 2005. However, dog bites have increased in Toronto. The only thing the ban did was decrease the pit bull population in the province.
We don't know how much the dog attacks have changed province-wide, as the Ontario government doesn't track that data. It tends to be a municipal tracking.
It would seem that some people, deliberately or involuntarily, train aggressiveness in their dogs. In Calgary, instead of banning certain breeds, the government promoted education for dog owners. Bites in Calgary have dropped dramatically since the mid-1980s.
Sources:
Global News
McLeans Magazine
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Robbie Parry
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I'd be reluctant to leave dogs, cats, rabbits or anything with a very, very young child.
A rabbit could do much less damage, if at all, to a toddler, but in life, why take the risk sometimes?
It's like anything. I looked after my nephew one time when he was about 2. He was sleeping on the sofa. Summer afternoon. I had to go upstairs to use the toilet. I locked the back door and made sure front door was locked. How likely would it have been for a person to enter the house, especially in daylight, and steal a child? Highly unlikely? Near-impossible? Maybe. But I don't believe in ANY form of risk when it comes to children.
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