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Russia is full of surprises these days.  I imagine if we had not cut the budget of NASA we'd have been there by now but I suppose if the USSR had not collapsed they might have been too. 
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I wonder if China may likely reach Mars first.
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You know Robbie, they just might.  I was reading that China has rather ambitious space plans. 
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It would seem Putin longs for the days of nuclear and space races, and espionage. And again at the cost of the Russian infrastructure.

I think the race may be between Elon Musk and Russia.
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 Brennan Voboril wrote:
You know Robbie, they just might.  I was reading that China has rather ambitious space plans.

I feel it's improbable, but not impossible.
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"They're Commies, I tell ya-- from Mars!"
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The Nazi regime only made it as far as the moon. =)

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Robbie Newsweek claims China is planning to land a probe on the dark side of the moon in 2018.  If true, they will beat both Russia and the U.S. 
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One thing I feel is missing from the debate (in magazines/newspapers) is whether we SHOULD inhabit Mars.

I always worry that we're gonna accidentally fuck around with life. I don't mean Martian Manhunter-style beings (they'd be easy to spot), but microscopic or oceanic life.

I had that thought when we sent a probe into the waters of - what was it, one of Saturn's moons? - and wondered of the possible damage.

I do realise space exploration has benefits, of course.
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Robbie Newsweek sounds like a good name, Brennan. Is he a new reporter? (Sorry, couldn't resist). Thanks for the info.
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It would be much easier for the Chinese to land a probe during the daytime. Then they can see where they're going. (Much like the first probe to the sun.)

Has the proof of concept been established yet? Once we establish how many people could be skylifted to Mars, has a similar sized group been subjected to the conditions? Total isolation for two or three years travel time, no exposure to the outside atmosphere or conditions save for inside the residential facility, self-reliance for food, water, air, medical, etc., and determine if survival (and sanity) are possible?

Can the expense be accounted for? Can they afford it? Are there any returns to expect? A base on Mars might be a start for mining the asteroids (although I suspect that for such inter-satellite operations, Ceres or Deimos or Phobos might be suitable.)

And as always... SHOULD we? Mars will not be a backup for Earth in case of disaster... it can't be. We have no way to move a hundredth of a percent of Earth's population to Mars... and movement is the LEAST problematic of all the factors.

It'll happen some day, if Man survives - but that won't be soon, I fear. Perhaps an automated mission might be more viable soon... perhaps.
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