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Greg McPhee
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Posted: 14 October 2019 at 2:34am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

No monkeys were killed on screen. But a multiple convicted paedophile, who, based on previous form, will likely bugger off to another country where he can molest more children, will receive a load of money to enable him to do so, is, via their music, in the film..

I actually think thatís worse, but thatís me.

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James, I agree 100%. That was a choice the film makers made to include music by Gary Glitter in this movie.

That decision alone just shows how out of touch everything is here.
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Posted: 14 October 2019 at 3:12am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Excuse me but I thought Gary Glitter was jailed.

If so and even if he was just sentenced to jail and fled the country, isn't there a chance his money his blocked, at least his royalties?
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Yes, in 2015 Gary Glitter was sent to prison in Britain for 16 years. He's still there and at his age will quite possibly die before becoming eligible for release.
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Posted: 14 October 2019 at 3:38am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

It has been reported this weekend that Glitter will not receive any royalties.

Perhaps they could donate them to a charity instead.
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Posted: 14 October 2019 at 3:52am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Logically it should be given to his victims as a compensation.


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Posted: 14 October 2019 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Yes, I too have now read that he personally will receive no money. Which is good.

I do still think the licence holders should either
A) refuse all requests to licence his music, or
B) as David says above, give all royalties to his confirmed victims.

Neither will happen.
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Posted: 15 October 2019 at 2:05am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Are you sure?

I mean...In France when you're guilty and must give compensation to your victims, the money you get can be seized.
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Posted: 15 October 2019 at 3:44am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I donít think the copyright holder would be mandated to give those royalties over, no - they didnít commit the crime.

Further, those earnings came after the crime.

So I doubt that would be the case
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Posted: 15 October 2019 at 4:00am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

That's weird but Ok.


Let's talk about the movie then.

I saw it and really liked it. I have difficulties to connect it to Batman in comics of course but also in movies (if you found Nolan's Batman trilogy was dark...well...).

I found it interesting in the way it connects with some society problems.

Also I don't think it gives excuses to a killer. It just shows how monsters can grow in the fringe of society where nobody really care about them.

Just my opinion of course.

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Posted: 22 October 2019 at 4:06am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I just saw people with Joker masks in pictures of riots in Chile.

Protesters in Lebanon are puting make-up to look like clowns.

So Joker is a role model now??

My opinion about this movie is changing...

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Posted: 22 October 2019 at 4:12am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

"So Joker is a role model now??"

Considering the popularity of Joker cosplay at conventions (seriously, it's one of the most common costumes I see at shows), is that really surprising?
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I never...ever wanted to feel pity for the Joker.  This movie made me feel sorry for him.  I kept thinking any Batman that would show up to deal with him...and beat him up like Batman does...would be cruel and abusive to somebody who needed some human compassion and sincere help from Ďthe systemí.

People keep telling me Joker was THE movie villain of the year.  Not for me.  Thanos still holds the title IMO.  I never ever felt pity for Thanos.  I was often struck by his cunning.  I was surprised by his love for his daughter.  I was in awe of his prowess.  And I was scared of him because he actually managed the single greatest act of mass homicide in movie history.  And he did it because he thought it was the right thing to do.  He was NOT crazy.  He was convinced.  THAT is scary.

Joker is no Thanos.   I never once felt sorry for Thanos.   (AVENGERS ENDGAME SPOILER for those who donít know).  When Thor cut off his head I cheered....because despite the layers of feelings the character gave me...he deserved to die.  

The Joker movie left me feeling sad for him...like his plight was somehow MY fault (as a citizen who didn't do enough to help the helpless).  Batman swooping in to pummel him would be piling on.  It makes a potential Batman a bully.  And Batman isnít a bully.

Joker wasnít a villain.  He was a victim.

Screw that.  That ainít the Joker to me.




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