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Doug Centers
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Posted: 26 November 2018 at 5:13pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I'll take whatever I can get!
...and I trust "The Plotter Supreme" to deliver!

Since I quit the X-Men all together by #143, to me this would be like a return from a hiatus. A 38 year hiatus sure but since I've not read them since, it will  feel like they never left!

A question for JB;
Any chance of revisiting Sprite's uniform color choice of black/white with red boots?
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Wow! Quite the move to consider scrapping a double-sized issue. Good that you think you can re-purpose a substantial portion of the pages though and I'm glad to hear that you're feeling so much creative drive!

Edited by Peter Martin on 26 November 2018 at 5:20pm
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Steve Green

The Savage Surfer story-line from Silver Surfer 18 was continued 29 years later in Webspinners 4-6. Pencils by Keith Giffen.

And now back to our regular programming.  ;)


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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 7:57am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Mulling and musing....

It occurs to me that the solution is not to redraw, but to reWRITE. To shift emphasis in certain scenes. Since I had already decided to make use of thought balloons and narrative captions in this "series", I can mix in what I feel might be missing thru the contemplations of the character.

Maybe.

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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 8:15am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Thanks for the ongoing peek into the creative process, JB!
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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 9:34am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I'm glad to hear about the thought balloons. I couldn't remember if they had made the "cut". 
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I realize that the reasons you dropped the use of thought balloons are noble,
but I would argue that the same search for storytelling efficiency that drove
you that way is what made your use of them so excellent. I admire your
thought-balloon-writing as being particularly "in the voice" of characters and
particularly revealing in story-enhancing ways.

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Posted: 27 November 2018 at 3:00pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Okay, you can stay.
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Richard Palmgren
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2 random questions if I may:

1.  Does the return to this time period include any characters in those Kirby-esque "tucked in shirt" style you did so well with your early FF run and with the X-Men school uniforms?  I LOVE the way you used that style; it gave the FF such a retro feel during that part of your run, same for Kitty, a real connection to the past.

2. Are there any other stories from your X-men run (108 - 137) that you wish you could've also "Elsewhen-ed" (some place you would have liked to have diverged from where it originally went)?
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1. Does the return to this time period include any characters in those Kirby-esque "tucked in shirt" style you did so well with your early FF run and with the X-Men school uniforms? I LOVE the way you used that style; it gave the FF such a retro feel during that part of your run, same for Kitty, a real connection to the past.

I have no idea what this means.

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2. Are there any other stories from your X-men run (108 - 137) that you wish you could've also "Elsewhen-ed" (some place you would have liked to have diverged from where it originally went)?

No. And, again, I must emphasize that the intent of this "series" is not to write over past elements I didn't like. Occasionally some of that will happen organically, but I am not plotting anything deliberate.

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The Savage Surfer story-line from Silver Surfer 18 was continued 29 years later in Webspinners 4-6. Pencils by Keith Giffen.

Didn't know that.

Wish I still didn't.

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Richard Palmgren
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Sorry, I meant those little lines above the belt line that make unrealistic superhero costumes look like they could be real fabric in the real world that the majority of artists miss ( I know it's costume specific, but it definitely adds retro realism to the costumes)
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Nathan Greno
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Posted: 28 November 2018 at 3:12pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

Mu opinion: JB handles the "tucked in shirt" in a more believable way now. I still love the art of his FF run -- but the (sorta) recent example below, feels much more real to me. 

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Dave Kopperman
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Yeah, JB's fabric rendering is up there with Ditko (who I think had a better feel for drapery than Kirby).  Beautiful stuff.  Minimal line with maximum impact.
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Dave Kopperman
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Just got the itch to look for examples of Ditko's drapery, and stumbled on this one.  Holy crap.  That's some ink-slinging.
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Posted: 28 November 2018 at 9:11pm | IP Logged | 16 post reply

Whoa! Wish I owned that page!
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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 28 November 2018 at 9:58pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

My jaw dropped seeing that Ditko page.

JB, I just caught the last page you posted with the Scarlet Witch/ Sentinel scene... love it!

-C!
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I never sensed an Eisner-Ditko connection before (maybe I'm dense) -but I
sure sense it on THAT page!

I guess I figured he came fully formed from the head of Zeus. Did Ditko
actually have "influences"?
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Posted: 29 November 2018 at 8:21am | IP Logged | 19 post reply

Here's the link to the full hi-res scan - the small version I posted here does not do this justice.  


Mark: Ditko bios say he was a fan of Mort Meskin, and there you can definitely see the influence.
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Posted: 29 November 2018 at 11:01am | IP Logged | 20 post reply

That hi-rez scan is worth printing just to learn from.
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wow. that is gorgeous.
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Time for a Ditko appreciation thread, methinks.....
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Richard Palmgren
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Posted: 29 November 2018 at 7:36pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

another random question, but possibly related to this thread:

With your wonderfully brilliant ability to create or evolve characters, did you ever come up with a new code name for Jean?  (Seems like writers always struggled giving Jean a suitable code name)
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Nope.
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Jeffrey Rice
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I guess later writers could not go back to Marvel Girl. Of course, we don't know if she would even need a code name in this story and i like it that way.
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