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Darren Taylor
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Jeffrey, 3D packages vary -A LOT- there are various 'rendering' options for a model. Some of these emulate a black and white 'technical' drawing.

As with all renders, they are very dependant on the lighting and the model itself.

A deep trench in the model will often appear like a bold line

A shallow indent can appear very light in the render.

It is -likely- that what you are seeing are these shallower parts of the model.

Models can be given a skin or decal using an image, like a texture map and John -could- have drawn those details then to be mapped to the model.

However, it would likely be faster to have modeled it. JB is pretty dang handy with 3D models. 

I'm not answering for John, I just feel like maybe this might help your confusion.

If you are interested in modeling, 3DS MAX has a render as standard called 'Ink & Paint', which does this effect.

I'm fairly sure you can get the same effect in 'Sketch Up', which at one point, it seemed every Comic artist was using for their sets.


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A curious element has found its way into my pencils as I continue to tinker and tweak. I seem to be experiencing a kind of retrogression in my thinking processes, building pages and panels as I would have in 1980, but with 2018 sensibilities. It's as if my younger self was doing the layouts, and my current self the finished pencils.

The result, of course, is that what I am drawing looks a whole lot like it did in my head 38 years ago, but was then beyond my ability to achieve.

Odd, but somehow a distinct warming of the cockles!

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Warming of the cockles---Winning!

I wonder how envious 1980-JB would be of 2018-JB's skills?
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He’d hate the guy!
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Temporal self-loathing. Wild.
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Thanks for the clarification Darren.

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Just came across this and thought I would post it here instead of a new thread.

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“Formal”? Not really sure what that means in this context.
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The result, of course, is that what I am drawing looks a whole lot like it did in my head 38 years ago, but was then beyond my ability to achieve.

Odd, but somehow a distinct warming of the cockle

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This is why I feel you might be the best inker for this project, should it progress. Lock-and-step as you have advanced as a penciller, you have refined your inking to the point that I view you as the single best-equipped person to ink your own art.

Delighted with what we have already received, no matter how it pans out though!

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JB wrote: A curious element has found its way into my pencils as I continue to tinker and tweak. I seem to be experiencing a kind of retrogression in my thinking processes, building pages and panels as I would have in 1980, but with 2018 sensibilities. It's as if my younger self was doing the layouts, and my current self the finished pencils.
The result, of course, is that what I am drawing looks a whole lot like it did in my head 38 years ago, but was then beyond my ability to achieve.

Odd, but somehow a distinct warming of the cockles!


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A young man's enthusiasm, with a master's touch!


I keep going back to that panel of Kitty phasing through the grille on the vent. My favourite panel so far. Her determination and her powers at work, make for a great heroic pose.
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This is why I feel you might be the best inker for this project, should it progress. Lock-and-step as you have advanced as a penciller, you have refined your inking to the point that I view you as the single best-equipped person to ink your own art.

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Last time I’m going to say this:

This is something I created specifically NOT to ink myself.

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God, I'd love to see Terry or Trevor Scott ink this. 
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