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Damian Styles
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| Posted: 22 June 2018 at 11:59am | IP Logged | 1
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So i've read the Kindle version of "Alien Spotlight Romulans" and I must say that i really enjoyed it, I didn't find it misogynist and thought the characters well thought out and lifelike, especially the dynamics within the commander's family, I don't know how anyone could find any sexism in lady Arenn as she is simply a good mother and wife, caring for her husband and son, what kind of shrieking harpy do you need to be to object to such a thing. Also the male characters are never seen mistreating the female characters, so I really do not get what the author's problem is, perhaps I might see what she is ovulating about once I have read the other comics, but I do not think so, and I am very excited to see how to develop Star Trek without being limited by Roddenberry's concept.
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Peter Martin
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I couldn't make it through the whole thing. I almost closed the browser on the first use of 'tatas' but I soldiered on. But then it cropped up again, and alas, I could take no more.
The author of the piece is all for artistic expression, you understand, but how dare women be drawn in dresses!
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Michael Roberts
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| Posted: 22 June 2018 at 12:10pm | IP Logged | 3
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| what kind of shrieking harpy do you need to be to object to such a thing. Also the male characters are never seen mistreating the female characters, so I really do not get what the author's problem is, perhaps I might see what she is ovulating about once I have read the other comics, but I do not think so |
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Err... I don’t feel JB is being misogynistic, but this definitely is, and you are doing him no favors attacking his critics in this manner.
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Thomas Woods
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| Posted: 22 June 2018 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 4
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Are all creators doomed to be analysed for diversity
from now on?
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Robbie Moubert
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What a load of old bollocks that was!
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Robbie Parry
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I don't have a short attention span - I'm 400 pages into a 700+ page book about MI5 - but I didn't have the stamina to get through even a third of that article.
I'll follow the topic and comment if relevant, but I really couldn't make out where it was going. Not for me!
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Rebecca Jansen
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Give slack, get slack?
People flipping their wigs over every possible bias or slight, past and present, and equating it to Bill Cosby or death camps is plain unbalanced. I always liked the women in John Byrne comics and many of them on Star Trek. I could relate to them and they were sexy without being ridiculous. I would think men might have a case against some of these artists that portray men as grotesquely muscled angry freaks and little more than women would take offense from Uhura in a short skirt, Roberta Lincoln being scatterbrained in character, or the Black Queen Jean Grey being sexy!
Now, I took offense at so many female characters I liked in comics being killed at one time, but the one that might be seen to have started it, Phoenix, made sense as a story, where the others were often just for sales I think. I didn't really wonder if it was an anger at women type of thing until maybe the fifth or six example of it within a few short years. I can see Frank Miller and Alan Moore as maybe showing some of that, but I can't know for sure. Writers are often accused of tormenting their characters anyway, especially in melodrama forms, and if the one subjected to the drama is one you relate to you could take it personally.
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John Byrne
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You all know what pareidolia is, right? Seeing faces where none exist? In clouds, wood grain, stains, etc. There is a form of this that exists in some "reviewers". Having chosen the crux of their diatribe, they then find abundant evidence of same, whether it exists or not. Sad thing is, on the disinformation highway, many will accept such drivel without doing research of their own, and thus the drivel is transformed into concrete.
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Steven McCauley
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JB is one of the few writers I have ever encountered that is able to capture the feeling of "watching" an episode of Star Trek on the printed page.
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Bill Collins
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Robbie Moubert,you took the words right out of my mouth!
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Joe Smith
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We could create a Sticky called "JB Accused of:"
The internet is the back-tits of the World Wide Web.
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Matt Hawes
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I would vote no to such a sticky, Joe. These kind of critics already get more attention than they warrant.
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