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Matthew Chartrand
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 The loss of a legend. RIP.
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Thanks for all of your work, RIP Mr Ditko.
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RIP. Very upsetting news.
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A life that mattered and will echo throughout the ages.
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A true original! :^(
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This is incredibly sad. What an artist! 
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I was surprised when he did some WWF comics (I did read 2 of them):

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Such a creative, unique mind.  RIP
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I was surprised when he did some WWF comics (I did read 2 of them):
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Some years ago, I was given a few issues of CHUCK NORRIS KARATE KOMMANDOS that he drew.

I also just read that he drew a vintage TRANSFORMERS coloring book. Looking at online scans of the book, I can tell that it's definitely his work.

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I was aware of neither of those, Mr Kirkman. 
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Michael Penn
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If Mr. Ditko had done nothing but Spider-Man, he would've changed comicbooks forever and all for the better.


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Iíd have to argue that, despite his limited run on AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, Ditko did change comics forever and for the better. Spider-Man became Marvelís flagship character and corporate mascot, and no other character better epitomizes how Marvel broke all the rules, back in the 60s.


I wonít hesitate to say that Lee and Kirbyís FANTASTIC FOUR is the single greatest and most important run in the history of the medium...but I also kinda feel that the Lee-Ditko Spider-Man is a surprisingly close second. It canít really be a direct comparison, since the FF run lasted nearly three times as long as Ditkoís tenure on ASM, but the influence and the impact of that character and that run still sent out a lot of ripples, both large and small.

I love the Lee-Romita era, as well, but about 90% of Spider-Manís universe was established in that initial run. More than just about any other 60s Marvel main character, he was pretty much fully-formed right out the gate, too.
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A sad day
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Iíd have to argue that, despite his limited run on AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, Ditko did change comics forever and for the better.

I'm sorry if I don't understand your response, Greg, but what you said is exactly what I'd said -- so what are you arguing?
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Peter Martin
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I'm guessing it stems from a slight ambiguity in your comment, Michael.

I would interprate what you wrote to mean: if Ditko's legacy was only those issues of Spider-Man on which he worked, he would still have changed comics forever.

But the wording can also be interpreted as changing comics forever being contingent on Ditko not working on other things: he would have changed comics forever if he had done nothing but Spider-Man.

I'd guess that's the way Greg read it, judging by the direction his comment went.
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Exactly, Peter. The way Michael phrased his comment made it sound a bit like Ditko hadnít changed comics, but would have if heíd stayed on the book longer. It appears thatís not what he meant, so thereís nothing to argue!


That being said...can ya imagine what would have happened if Ditko had done a hundred issues of ASM instead of 40? After he quit Marvel, Ditko for all intents and purposes faded into a self-imposed obscurity. Stuff like CHUCK NORRIS KARATE KOMMANDOS wasnít exactly top-tier. Sure, his Charlton work (among other things) has its fans, but his number one claim to fame is Spider-Man, with Doctor Strange bringing up the rear. 

On the one hand, itís a testament to his talent that he made such an impact by co-creating one uber-beloved character, but, on the other hand, itís unfortunate that he willfully stepped out of the spotlight, and worked in obscurity until he died alone. Canít fault the man for living and dying on his own terms, but popular culture is poorer for it. Just imagine if heíd been as prolific and prominent as someone like Kirby!

Of course, the mystery surrounding Ditko and the fact that he left fans wanting more is what has made him a legend. And legends never die!
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Greg touched on something I've been pondering over the
weekend. Kirby and Ditko are acknowledge as the
artistic titans of the 1960s Marvel Comics explosion.
Both left Marvel over personal disputes in the late
60s. Kirby went on to be seen basically as a martyr
for creator rights and honored for decades to come.
The entire industry rallied behind him demanding the
return of artwork and Kirby was an annual fixture at
the San Diego Comic Con. Ditko went on to be basically
forgotten since all he did was continue to work and
toil away in his studio.

I'm really interested to see how the industry reacts
now that Ditko has passed and especially what Robin
Snyder does in the future.
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Ditko refused to play martyr. And for a lot of people, that's no fun.
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I wonder what will come to light from Ditko's studio and other locations now he's gone. A fortune in original art? Revealing documents from the history of Marvel? Maybe his heirs will just keep his private papers to themselves. Ditko might have left instructions for certain things (or even everything) to be destroyed.
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According to Greg Theakston, Steve Ditko admitted that he had penciled 2 unpublished Dr. Strange stories and that he pointed to them on a shelf in his studio but he wouldn't let Theakston see the pages. Hopefully they'll see the light of day, if true.
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Iím kinda on the opposite end of that. He didnít want them seen when he was alive, why does his death make it ok to put them out here?
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Ditko had every opportunity to cash in on being the co-creator of Spider-Man and Doctor Strange and chose not too.  We should just let it go at that.


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 Brian Miller wrote:
He didnít want them seen when he was alive, why does his death make it ok to put them out here?


Can't speak to Ditko's mindset, but reportedly his reasons for not wanting to do more Spider-Man or Doctor Strange when he returned to Marvel in the 70s was a lack of interest in competing with his own legend. That's not something he would have to worry about now.

If he left instructions to whoever to destroy them, then his wishes should be honored. It's also possible that he destroyed them himself at some point over the years. But if neither of those situations are true, it would be nice to see the stories.

He and Robin Snyder just completed a Kickstarter for a new book (fortunately, work had already been completed, and I believe there are one or two more he's finished). I'm surprised Robin Snyder hasn't said anything there yet.
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Greg Kirkman said: "...TRANSFORMERS coloring book. Looking at online scans of the book, I can tell that it's definitely his work..."

 - any chance you still have those links ?
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