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Tim O Neill
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Brian: "Picardís resurrection was telegraphed totally in part one."

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Yes, true - the show has been setting this up from the start. I just really don't
like the way it was handled. There is a much more interesting way to handle it
than they way they did.

It does open up some really fantastic possibilities for the Borg aspect of
Picard. And of course he will now have insight into how Data lived, bringing
him closer to Soji.

And I don't think that is the end of Data. I hope we will see more of Altan Inigo
Soong, and I think B4 will awaken at some point.


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Posted: 28 March 2020 at 12:28pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Itís going to be very interesting to see how they have this cast back
together for the second season. And how Guinan fits into it.
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Tim O Neill
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Yes, I am so excited for Guinan!


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Jonathan A. Dowdell
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Posted: 28 March 2020 at 1:26pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

My problem is there was promise in telling a big story with the Borg, Romulans, Starfleet, Data's "people" -- with Picard & characters we love. I don't think they created anything interesting or created a suitable sequel to the Star Trek (TNG) universe. When seeing Riker & Deanna in one episode is the most enjoyable part of the story (it was to me) that is a problem for a 10 hour series. 
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Christopher Frost
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Posted: 28 March 2020 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I've loved this entire series since it started and the finale was very satisfying.

The only outstanding question at the end is what happened to Narek (Harry Tredaway)? He just kind of vanished.

As for the rest of the cast, I like them all and look forward to seeing more adventures with them.

On a related note, the lead in book Star Trek: Picard - The Last Best Hope is a solid read and fills in some history regarding the project to try and save the Romulans, how Raffi came to work with Picard and so forth,
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So my fan theory is Picard has been a sequel to What Are Little Girls Made Of, and Michael Chabon's attempt to bring Cthulhu into the Star Trek Universe.

  • What Are Little Girls Made Of has androids and mentions the Old Ones
  • Chabon's written Lovecraftian stories before ("The God of Dark Laughter")
  • "Ch'khalagu" sounds a bit like "Cthulhu"
  • Tentacles

... that's pretty much all I'm basing it on.


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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 29 March 2020 at 3:47pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I donít see why people canít just let other people like what they like and 
stop trying to be a ďbetterĒ Star Trek or Star Wars fan by belittling the 
stuff they donít like. 

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There's a bit of irony in TNG fans calling PICARD not "real Star Trek" when the same complaints were levied at TNG in its early days by TOS fans.
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 QUOTE:
So my fan theory is Picard has been a sequel to What Are Little Girls Made Of, and Michael Chabon's attempt to bring Cthulhu into the Star Trek Universe.

  • What Are Little Girls Made Of has androids and mentions the Old Ones
  • Chabon's written Lovecraftian stories before ("The God of Dark Laughter")
  • "Ch'khalagu" sounds a bit like "Cthulhu"
  • Tentacles

... that's pretty much all I'm basing it on.

I really liked the finale and the series overall, but I was slightly disappointed that the Uber-Synths turned out to be Space Cthulhu. I was hoping for a TNG-style twist where both the Romulans and Sutra misunderstood the point of the Admonition and that it was either an offer to help avoid conflict or a test to see if the Synths would avoid a destructive path.


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Jozef Brandt
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Posted: 30 March 2020 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply


I know my own appreciation for Gene Roddenberry's take on the future is fulfilled by ripping out eyeballs, Lord of the Rings Romulans, Dystopian cliches, and profanity.

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Christopher Frost
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Ah, gatekeepers. Where would Trek fandom be without them. 

Ever since the days when TNG came along, we've lived with a segment of fans who claim "that's not Trek!" at every turn. 

I think it's fine that we all like or dislike various series for whatever reasons but I don't think the "how can a real fan like this show" attitude is necessary or contributes to discussion in a healthy way. It's dismissive of the people who don't share your opinion and that's not cool.  Different people like different things and that's the way it should be and we should be able to talk about it without denigrating each others opinions.

Just my two cents on it ;)
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Posted: 01 April 2020 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

On balance, I didn't love it - mostly because the story wasn't as well thought out as it could have been, especially given Michael Chabon's participation.  I loved individual moments and episodes quite a bit, but didn't feel like they really gelled into a greater sum.  All the actors were good-to-great - though I do sort of find myself wishing the Zhat Vash bro would be swapped in on the team for Elnor - the dialogue was sharp, the visuals (obviously!) were excellent.  It just sort of feels like they opened up a lot of potent areas of thematic exploration that they failed to really deliver on, and definitely didn't really give the new take on old ST themes that was promised.
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Posted: 02 April 2020 at 2:12am | IP Logged | 12 post reply


Marc Bernard let some things slip on the Kevin Smith podcast after he was
hired on as a writer the plan was that they are filming Season 2 & 3 of Picard
together but releasing them separately..... of course that was all pre
coronavirus shut down.




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