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Bill Collins
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Posted: 18 September 2018 at 1:29pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

What`s Kim`s play? Buying crayons and pens to organise a
mass protest, or a devious play to imply Huell is a bit
simple and didn`t realise what he was doing?
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"Even her reaction to Jimmy's admission that he'd been selling burner phones to criminals was more bewilderment rather than judgment."

My instinct was to be bugged about that. But I faith in the payoff.

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I go back to "Cobbler". Kim doesn't seem bothered at all that Jimmy violated legal ethics by making up the squat cobbler story. In fact, she seems impressed by it. It's not until he tells her that he had his client make a tape that she gets upset. Not because it was wrong, but because someone might be able to figure out that he manufactured evidence and Jimmy would lose his Davis & Main job over it.

Thinking back on Kim's PD work, she risked losing Mesa Verde over one of her indigent clients. Jimmy is her biggest hard-luck case, and I get the feeling that she's going to end up disbarred while helping Jimmy with one of his schemes.
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What`s Kim`s play? Buying crayons and pens to organise a 
mass protest, or a devious play to imply Huell is a bit 
simple and didn`t realise what he was doing?

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It wasn't clear to me whether Kim was shopping in order to execute some plan for Huell or if she was just stress shopping and then some idea popped into her head.
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I thought her reaction to the reveal about the burner phones was really well done.  Jimmy told it to her as just a piece of bare information, and when she stops at it, he tries to just gloss over it.  He basically revealed he's been lying to her for months.  But Kim isn't the type who has a breakdown and yells and screams.  I thought the rest of her reaction in that seen, including when she has her associate shoo Jimmy out the door because she couldn't even speak to him at the moment was brilliant.  And shows the core problem:  Jimmy wasn't worried about how she felt about him at that moment, he just wanted to make sure that she'd get Huel off.  Revealing just how over the relationship is.  It makes his plan with the office space really sad.  Sort of a desperate attempt to turn the clock back to a better point in their relationship.

To me the key 'Saul' element that emerged in this episode was in his conversation with the cop.  He's now able to separate himself from what his 'clients' might do, despite his being fully aware of it.  What he's doing is technically legal, and so if people are using his services to facilitate selling drugs or arranging hits...that's not his problem.  Which means he'll have no problem whatsoever being a lawyer for those same people and getting them off through schemes and technicalities.
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Fantastic and momentous episode. 

I think we've been saying that for almost every episode this season.   They just keep dropping these bombs.   It's amazing to see each week unfold.

The opening montage is pure genius, and that’s saying something, because this show is the king of TV montages. So much important information is crammed into this short sequence. 

I think the most amazing thing were the split screens that turned out to be the same room at the same time.   Dare I say it, it was almost akin to how some modern comics play with the panel borders. 

And what a lovely twist it is to see Gus make certain that Hector is still in there before putting the brakes on his treatment, so as to further torture him.

I think this has been telegraphed all along.   Gus is very calculating, obsessive, and cruel.   What makes it all the more chilling is his polite and calm demeanor.  Hector's substitute caregiver is an enormous loose end and I'm sure she'll not make it to the end of the season.   'Quiet dinner at Gus' place' is like a shorthand for the chop.  It's just like Gus to build her a hospital ward and she'll never get to see it, just like how I think every single person involved with the construction of the Superlab isn't going to make it out alive.  Except Mike.  He fully respects and trusts Mike which is an interesting twist.

Re: Hector.   I'm amazed to see just how far this character has come.   I doubt even Vince fully understood how this character -- who seemed at first to be slotted into an episode for some almost Twin-Peaks-esque weirdness/comic relief has become something else entirely.   Given that BB originally had more black comedic elements -- it's most evident in the BB pilot but I think Hector's introduction in season 2 also comes from the same black comedy well.

Am I right in thinking this is the first episode without Nacho or am I misremembering?

Very cool to see the beginnings of the superlab. I have the sneaking feeling that Kai is a red herring, and that Mike’s growing friendship with Werner will actually be the cause of his final turn to the dark side.

I can see that.  Mike and Werner are getting too cosy and chummy which in BB terms is pretty much a death sentence for Werner.  I agree with Kai being an obvious red herring but I think there's a point to Kai's story.   One Redditor made an offhand joke about Kai being the father of Lydia's child -- and once the laughter died down someone said "hey, waitaminute... that actually fits...".  This now seems to be gaining traction.  We'll see.

A couple other comments:

*Big Boy Pants.   'Nuff said.  Best BB callback ever.

*An interesting exploration of the German meaning of Mike's family name.  It harkens back to the colour meanings of the names in Breaking Bad (White, Pinkman, Schraeder -- all are Germanic derived names).

*I think this is the first time another lawyer has referred to Jimmy without referencing his brother.   That's a pretty major shift but it's so subtle you don't even realize it.


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Posted: 18 September 2018 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Is it possible this show will end with him getting
busted and at court, Kim shows up to defend him ... the
end.
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Am I right in thinking this is the first episode without Nacho or am I misremembering?
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Nacho’s been out of the picture for the last three episodes. Looks like we’ll be seeing him—and how the time-jump has affected him—next week.
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Is it possible this show will end with him getting 
busted and at court, Kim shows up to defend him ... the 
end.
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I’ve considered that, but it seems a little too obvious. 
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Posted: 19 September 2018 at 11:40am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

My feelings from SOMETHING STUPID:

*Great opening with the split screen. Love the time jump.
*Kim's reaction to Jimmy's cell phone selling and scheme to save Huell.
*Mike and Werner talking over a beer. (I also think that Werner will be the catalyst for Mike's turn)
*Jimmy's tour of his proposed office space with Huell. Pacing off and then doing the same at Kim's office.
*Mike speaking German.
*Gus deciding to end treatment for Hector.

ARGH!!! Only 3 episodes left.

And it looks like next week we get to meet Lalo. That should be interesting.
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Posted: 19 September 2018 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Gus as he halts Hector`s therapy...acting masterclass!
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"Hector's substitute caregiver is an enormous loose end and I'm sure she'll not make it to the end of the season.   'Quiet dinner at Gus' place' is like a shorthand for the chop.  It's just like Gus to build her a hospital ward and she'll never get to see it, just like how I think every single person involved with the construction of the Superlab isn't going to make it out alive.  Except Mike.  He fully respects and trusts Mike which is an interesting twist."

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That doesn't sound like Gus to me. He doesn't have "innocent" people killed, or anyone that did their job faithfully, as the caregiver had done. I'm sure part of the reason why he picked foreigners for the job was that once they are done, they leave the US, and there's no easy way to trace back to them if there's ever an investigation. I don't think he hires anyone with the intent on killing them in the end. Victor was killed in "Box cutter" because he messed up and threatened the entire operation, and to serve as a message to Walter and Jessie in case they thought to ever get out of line again.*

*Though Walter kept insisting to Jessie (and the audience) that Gus was a threat to their lives after that point, I don't believe it. If they had just continued doing their jobs, I think that he would have left them alone. I took it was Walter finding an excuse to try to take over. 
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BTW someone on Reddit had taken note that the prosecutor that called Jimmy a "Scumbag lawyer" was the same prosecutor that was prosecuting Tuco in season 2, and Jimmy represented Mike when he retracted his statement about the gun. I can't check now, but if that's true, that's another amazing little detail.
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