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Jeffrey Rice
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I didn't worry too much about the opinions of others when it was not cool to read comics. But it was indeed looked down on.
I am the most successful career-wise in my family, so no one in the family bothered me about it.
These days I am surprised how often people at work see my Vision and Cap items and just start talking comics with me. Movies too, but the real comic book readers really surprise me. We are all free to admit it now!
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Leigh DJ Hunt
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My Significant Other loves comics and my love of them especially as it gives me a bond with at least one of her children.
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Peter Martin
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One day, a classmate was caught reading a comic book and Mr Danenfelser abruptly snatched it out his hands and began to rip it apart while saying: "Superman has just been exposed to Kryptonite!"----------------------------- This is terrible and kind of awesome. Like something out of a John Hughes movie.... and it shows how the Superman mythos penetrated the minds of the civilian like no other super hero.
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Adam Schulman
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Yep, today if you read comics and you're an adult it's perfectly respectable. Particularly if you're in your 20s. Thing is, the popularity of the Marvel movies and Netflix shows -- and video games -- has not translated into increased sales of Marvel comics or any comics whatsoever. And I don't think that the average comic being $3.99 (!!) an issue helps at all.
So, in a nutshell, it's OK to do but not that many people are doing it.
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James Johnson
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Adam,
In these days of instant gratification, why should kids be reading comics? <sarcasm>
We live in an age where Hollywood and video game programmers can throw the films and games together in no time at all.
Comic books today are in many ways just storyboards.
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John Byrne
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Comicbooks are very different from storyboards. Imagine watching a movie that used a standard issue superhero comics as its guide to shooting the action, camera angles changing as often as they do in the panels. The result would be something that made BLAIR WITCH look like steadicam.But there is no question that comics have lost the small advantage they used to have over movies. When working on X-MEN and FANTASTIC FOUR, etc, I used to say that George Lucas had to fly to Tunisia to find his alien landscapes, whereas I shot on location. No longer so. Movies can present spectacular cosmic landscapes--along with all other kinds--with minimal effort.
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Nathan Greno
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JB: Comicbooks are very different from storyboards.
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I usually say the two are related -- but distant cousins, not siblings.
I once got into it online with someone who wanted to see a "faithful" film adaption of JB's Man of Steel -- using the comic's panels as the storyboards for filming. I said that would be unwatchable and tried to explain why -- but the guy got all huffy and wouldn't listen to anything I said. I realized he had no experience producing film or comics, so I dropped the conversation.
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Brian Hague
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He may have simply wanted to see certain panels from the comic replicated on screen. That shot of Superman rising from his family's farm, for instance, would be lovely in a movie.
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Adam Schulman
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I've read that Disney sees Marvel comics as a "research and development" arm for movies, cartoons, live-action TV shows, etc., but I'm beginning to wonder if the days of the monthly comic book will soon be gone for good.
Fantagraphics and Drawn & Quarterly and other such publishers will still publish original graphic novels for adults, of course. And even "normal" publishers will print OGNs from big names (say, Alison Bechdel, Art Spiegelman if he ever produces more work, and so on), but the popularity of superheroes isn't leading to greater superhero comic sales, and even the RIVERDALE TV show isn't making Archie comics more popular (as far as I know).
Edited by Adam Schulman on 17 November 2018 at 6:16pm
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Nathan Greno
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Brian: He may have simply wanted to see certain panels from the comic replicated on screen. That shot of Superman rising from his family's farm, for instance, would be lovely in a movie.
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Well, that's not what he said.
I explained to him, literally using the comic panels wouldn't work because they won't cut together in a way that followed the rules of cinema (the 180 degree rule for example) -- it would be jarring to watch as a film. And then he'd tell me I don't know what I'm talking about and "it would make a great film".
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Doug Jones
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If only you knew even a little bit about the process of filmmaking, Nathan...
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Greg Kirkman
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Film editing and sequential storytelling are indeed completely different beasts.
Storyboards give a rough layout for camera movement and onscreen action. A blueprint, rather than a finished product. Comic pages literally are the story, and so need to establish tone, setting, action, and characterization simultaneously.
It would be interesting, though, to see how (badly) a direct/panel-by-panel adaptation of a comic story would fare in live-action, just as an experiment.
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