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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 03 January 2019 at 9:01pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Wow. I'm impressed. Especially for an episode not written by MacFarlane.
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Posted: 03 January 2019 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I had no idea where all that was going!
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Posted: 03 January 2019 at 9:17pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Not by MacFarlane? IMDb says otherwise...?
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Hmmm. I could have sworn that I saw an unfamiliar name under the writer credit. One site says that it was directed by MacFarlane and written by Kevin Hooks, and another has both names switched. I won't be able to check until it airs on Hulu tomorrow.

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Good episode, but it could have used a little more time to stretch out.  Not sure HOW exactly, since it wouldn't be enough for a two-parter.
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Man, I enjoyed this one a lot. 


This is what I’ve been saying—THE ORVILLE’s great strength is that it can do STAR TREK without being burdened by the baggage and history of STAR TREK. I found myself grinning during the opening teaser, because I immediately realized that they were gonna do something which TNG and the other shows were unable to, and which was only ever hinted at: an exploration of holodeck sex addiction. 

I can now see why this one might have been held back from the first season, considering the risqué material (note that this aired with a “viewer discretion” advisory), but it all works really well. We even get an interesting exploration of the repercussions from the events of “About a Girl”, and a really nice little melding of the “A” and “B” plots at the end.

There’s also that inspiring spirit of...er...discovery...in the opening scenes of the crew examining the planet’s atmosphere boiling away, which is something that’s been lacking in more recent iterations of TREK (which seem to prefer supervillains and explosions to the joys of exploration). This show really captures the spirit of TREK, and is a proper successor to what Roddenberry gave us, half a century ago. Examinations of social issues from different angles, and presenting diversity in a very positive and non-preachy way. The fictitious nature of Bortus and his race allows for a Gay couple to be a natural and organic part of the show, and yet it doesn’t feel like pandering or a gimmick. The Bortus/Klyden “scenes from a marriage” bits are some of the funniest and most touching moments in the entire series, too. 

And even throwaway characters, like the alien lieutenant who hooks up Bortus with the porn program, feel like fleshed-out and interesting characters we’d like to see more of. Hilarious use of subtitles, too. “You want to hone your bone?”


Oh, and the onscreen credits do not include MacFarlane as writer or director. Color me surprised!
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Posted: 04 January 2019 at 6:26am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Yeah, IMDb has Wellesley Wild as writer and Kevin Hooks directing.

The show will have a MacFarlane tone to it when Wild is writing, i.e. going on a tangent about the pronunciation of Minister Theece's name, they've worked together for years.
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Yep, I just looked up Mr Wild - along with Cherry Chevapravatdumrong, they've worked with MacFarlane for a while, so I can see how they'd be able to fool me into thinking Macfarlane wrote this.

Wild has also been tapped as showrunner for a new Animaniacs series - LINK
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Posted: 04 January 2019 at 8:52am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Seems IMDb has been updated since I looked last night.
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So, WAS this the holdover from S1? The special effects seemed up seversl notches.
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Posted: 04 January 2019 at 9:13am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

JB, it may have been.  The new cartographer was neither seen nor mentioned in this episode.  And, to me, it sort of felt like a season ending type of episode.
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I was wondering the same thing. An AVClub review states that it is, but I haven't yet seen confirmation from the production crew. I was thinking that maybe they punched up the effects after the fact? Season 2 is said to have a bigger budget.

But here's another thing - Season 2 is under a new experiment by Fox where there will be less commercials with more episode airtime. This episode is 48 minutes long, along with the premiere episode. Season 1 episodes tended to run for 42-43 minutes (according to my quick check on Hulu). It seems less likely that they'd shoot new scenes after the fact to fill in the extra space.
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