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Tim O Neill Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 9:25am | IP Logged | 1
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I really like the trade edition of “The Tenth Circle” - DC uses a really good paper stock on this and the MAN OF STEEL trades. For those who haven’t read it in a while, It’s a real page turner!
I was really put off by Jerry Ordway’s inks when it came out, but the story is so strong that the inks can’t ruin this one. The pace and the way this unfolds to reveal Doom Patrol is just perfect.
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Richard Stevens Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 9:47am | IP Logged | 2
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Would Etrigan, as a demon, be able to more readily slash Superman than say, Sabretooth?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 9:49am | IP Logged | 3
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Etrigan could kill Superman--assuming he could actually get close enough to inflict damage. Sabretooth not so much.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 09 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1356
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 10:02am | IP Logged | 4
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So if a magic bullet could potentially kill Superman, would that mean instant death for him if Shazam, or Black Adam hit him with either fist or Lightning?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 10:43am | IP Logged | 5
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Since the power of Shazam is magical, that lightning bolt would, at the least, impact on Superman in much the same way a natural bolt would on a normal human. In a fist fight it would be more like two regular guys hitting each other.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 10:54am | IP Logged | 6
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Ok last question is if this i unique weakness of Superman, or that it applies to the Thing, Colossus, and everyone.
Sorry I played a lot of role playing games that have rules for everything, so I've become a "how things work, rules junky" and apply to to everything. Even tried applying it to the bible.
Edited by Thomas Woods on 19 February 2019 at 11:23am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 11:31am | IP Logged | 7
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sighMagic works on EVERYBODY.
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 12:10pm | IP Logged | 8
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In Kingdom Come and Justice League of America 103 and 137 (and likely others), Superman is hit by magic lightning and survives.
But here we get into the debate about magic again... if the Weather Wizard hits Superman with a lightning bolt, it does nothing to him. If the Wizard hits Superman with a conjured lightning bolt, it affects him as it would affect most anyone*.
But if Zeus or Thor hits Superman with a lightning bolt, we're talking about "God magic." Does that affect him the same as normal (!!!) magic? Is it controlled by Zeus? In one story, Billy said "Shazam" and the bolt ricocheted off, transforming three others into Marvels. Both Luthor and Sivana have taken advantage of the nature of this super bolt. And would Zeus allow his bolt to be used as a weapon against Superman?
This is why discussing magic causes migraines. :)
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 9
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Yeah, so the new thing I got gowing in my head is this would make the bullet hitting superman going into flesh, compared to Rock (Thing), and Steel (Colossus). It seems it would affect them, but differently.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 19 February 2019 at 12:30pm | IP Logged | 10
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The Thing isn’t made of rock. The closest would probably be some kind of cartilage.
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Clint Thompson Byrne Robotics Member
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I would think that, regardless of Superman being susceptible to magic, trying to bite a LIVING SOLAR BATTERY would be a bad idea for any vampire.
Also, is heat vision essentially excess solar energy? Seems to me that Superman could defeat any vampire just by looking at them.
I might have a bug up my butt about people thinking that vampires could trump Superman. I remember way too many discussions about that from my youth.
Edited by Clint Thompson on 19 February 2019 at 2:07pm
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John Byrne
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Another popular misconception! It is not solar energy that is anathema to vampires. It is the PURITY of the Sun’s light.
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