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Doug Centers Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 4:47pm | IP Logged | 1
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That Coast Guard Lt. story was the lead on NBC Nightly News last night.
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David Allen Perrin Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 15 April 2009 Location: United States Posts: 3549
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 4:58pm | IP Logged | 2
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So...So...SO glad I didn't chime in where friends of mine did in support of him. This shit pisses me right off.
I have little sympathy for him.
Fuckin' up Black History Month pretty badly!
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 8369
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 6:00pm | IP Logged | 3
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I am a conservative who abstained from voting because I couldn't in good conscience vote for either candidate. After Trump won the election, what I've witnessed is a lot of people on both sides behaving badly. What I'm about to posts is based off of buzz words and phrases that I hear across the internet.
The left seems sure he's an Neo-Nazi Alt- Right fascist that wants to turn this country into the next Hitler lead Germany. Anyone, who appears to support him, is a target for harassment, including kids.
The right counters by calling the many on the left Social Justice Warriors, Socialists, Marxists and Communists who will take down a person who doesn't think correctly.
On Both sides, whoever is called out, gets a group, intentional or not, mostly not, to attack in swarms, and drive people off the internet.
I think this guy got caught up in this internet back and forth that started when we elected our current President and needs help.
Do I think Trump is a good President? I think he's middle of the road. Currently, we are enjoying the best economy in 60 years, and he's managed to keep us out of conflicts. I think he negotiated a shitty deal with Russia that has us leaving Syria and sadly, we will have to go back within a decade's time.
Do I think he's a Misogynist? Yep. Thought Bill Clinton was too. I think both and many more, use their postions to prey on young women attracted to power.
I also think a lot of rhetoric has been created to stir people up into a frenzy. The people in Washington generally DON'T CARE about the American people. This is a chess match to see who can be king of the hill. They hope no one will actually research events and opinions of their's in the past. I remember Democrats mentioning the idea of a border wall going back before Obama was President. I think the images of children sleeping in cages was deplorable. I actual timestamp on those photos go back to 2014. All of this is simply because he wants it and there not the king of the hill.
The guy running our country is a good guy. I wouldn't want him as a friend. I certainly wouldn't want him near my sister. I think him not understanding how business is done in DC is both a blessing and a curse. I think he's a bit of a goof who has a few good ideas and a few bad ones. I think a lot of this anger is self defeating and unproductive. Why do i feel this way? Because that anger is how I felt as a young man during the Clinton scandal. It didn't do me a lot of good then either.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 30904
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 8:07pm | IP Logged | 4
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“A good guy”? He goes around bragging about how he likes to grab women “by the pussy”. Yeah, that’s a good guy.
He makes fun of handicapped people. Good guy.
He’s a racist. Great guy.
He’s a rich, spoiled brat bully that doesn’t think he has to play by any rules that all the rest of us have to obey. Good guy.
Jesus Christ, Stephen. What’s your definition of a bad guy?
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Brad Brickley Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 8286
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 8:29pm | IP Logged | 5
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So he was disgruntled at making only $80,000 an episode from what I read somewhere. I would love to make $80,000 and episode over several years. I think I've put up with much worse jobs for much less over the years.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 09 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1356
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 8:43pm | IP Logged | 6
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Well said Stephen
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 January 2005 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 5249
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | 7
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And you should read what people from other countries think about him... The impact on America's image as a leading country...
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John Cole Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 02 March 2008 Location: United States Posts: 505
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 9:59pm | IP Logged | 8
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Haven't watched network TV regularly since 1983 so I have no idea who he is.
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Ron Grant Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | 9
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How many careers were ruined in the last year just by someone just making an accusation but with absolutely no proof? it makes me question whether we should always believe the victim?
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 21 February 2019 at 11:45pm | IP Logged | 10
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Nothing wrong with questioning the victim too. Especially if they are going to completely destroy the other persons life. You have to question them.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 February 2019 at 2:10am | IP Logged | 11
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it makes me question whether we should always believe the victim?
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Believing the victim doesn’t mean presuming guilt on the part of the accused or taking the accuser’s word as truth uncritically. It means taking claims of abuse and assault seriously and not dismissing them outright, which has been a problem historically.
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 22 February 2019 at 8:31am | IP Logged | 12
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Believing the victim doesn’t mean presuming guilt on the part of the accused or taking the accuser’s word as truth uncritically. It means taking claims of abuse and assault seriously and not dismissing them outright, which has been a problem historically
===== I think you need to consider due process as well. With the internet, we've reached an outrage mob mentality where we don't wait for due process to pass judgement. I think the Vic Mignogna, voice actor, case is an example. The prevailing winds are, he's a serial harasser of women and possibly female minors. He's lost his job, he's been banned from convention signings and labeled public enemy number one. Does he deserve it. Possibly. I know the stories that have come out makes me think he's a single guy trying to have a healthy sex life. Because of this, he's got a bit of a reputation of being a hound dog. Nothing I've heard sounds like actual real harassment. Io9 did an interview with him. Then I read the full interview and kearn, io9 didn't publish his complete answers. We need to kearn that the nedia is no longer our friend. I'm not just talking about CNN or MSNBC. The Networks, newspapers, FOX NEWS, YouTube pundits, everyone of them is having no trouble trying to monetize your outrage. Vic may be guilty as hell. Women have come forward with stories. Why haven't charages been filed. Is he guilty or has a couple of jaded people decided to use the media to destroy a person's life? I wasn't there, I don't know. I'm waiting for due process.
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