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John Byrne
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Posted: 02 April 2019 at 1:34pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

IIRC, the second episode was more like 45 minutes.

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Well, that completely negates my point, doesn’t it!

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Posted: 02 April 2019 at 1:55pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

This is going to be broadcast on network TV in Canada starting on Thursday, so I've set up a series record.

Going back to something Greg wrote, I'm doubtful that The Good Fight would be shown on Network TV without substantial cuts. I think it's one of the very best shows on TV (I get it as part of my cable package, on Canada's 'W Network' of all places, which otherwise tends to show Hallmark movies),  but it has non-Networky levels of nudity and swearing. It's quirky, intelligent and compelling.
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Posted: 02 April 2019 at 6:49pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Second one was 37 minutes, actually. Looks like it's going to be the standard streaming series thing where each episode is as long as they feel it should be, for better or worse.

I watched the 2nd one and liked it, have yet to watch the 1st one but heard it's pretty poor. Jordan Peele's voice (his literal voice) will take some getting used to, but I'm aboard. As with most anthology shows, I'm sure the quality will vary greatly from episode to episode.
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Posted: 02 April 2019 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I hear “as long as they feel it should be” and it says “decompression” to me.

Which is not good.

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Posted: 02 April 2019 at 11:44pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Where I hear "sometimes a story needs to breathe"!  Different strokes.

That said, I agree that the hour-long eps of the original TZ (Season 4, not the final Season 5) were not the greatest, but so too did some of the half-hours eps (Seasons 1-3 & 5) suffer from being an anthology.  Some were great (classics, actually).  Some, not so much.  I really don't think it's a case of these kinds of stories can only be told in a half-hour format, but that it depends on whether or not a story can carry a shorter or longer runtime. 

I come at this from being a long-time TZ fan, someone who arduously recorded on VHS every single episode, has read biographies on Serling, owns the series on multiple formats and has two dog-eared copies of Marc Scott Zicree's comprehensive breakdown of all TZ episodes.  TZ is as important to me as TOS. 

It's a tough hill to climb to measure up to the original.  I just hope they're up to the challenge.
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Posted: 03 April 2019 at 12:08am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I hear “as long as they feel it should be” and it says “decompression” to me.

Which is not good.

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One of the major problems with most (not all) superhero, sci-fi,fantasy,and horror streaming shows is that the episodes are way too long and decompressed. One of the reasons why I like Amazon Prime's live action The Tick show is because each episode is only 22 to 25 minutes long and gets straight to the point.
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I think that Twilight Zone episodes will work best as they did; 20 minutes (more or less) per story. Now, three stories per episode would be another matter; but on something like CBS All Access, I can't see why to do it that way.

Some creators - maybe a lot - need limits to make their stories better. Given 23 minutes or pages, and no ongoing continued stories means that the stories have to be tighter and have the excess cut out.  Of course, some writers tell the story in as much space as they need - and don't overflow with unnecessary content (our host being one of those.)

I have Netflix, and I'm on the fence about keeping that; we aren't watching enough TV to get everything we could from it and our standard cable. I grant that we don't watch a lot of procedural shows, and we are VERY reluctant to pick up a new show.

So you can imagine that the idea of paying more on top of our cable/Netflix fees isn't going over very well. Maybe the Disney channel (Disney Plus, is it?) that'll have the Marvel content on it, because I'm a sucker for super hero product. But Hulu, YouTube Prime (or whatever it is), and those others do not come across in any good manner to me. CBS All Access is at the bottom of the heap.


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Posted: 03 April 2019 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Caught the first episode now, "The Comedian" and...yeah. It's pretty weak. Definitely too long---would have made a pretty crackerjack half-hour tale, but instead was stretched out to an interminable near-hour. It's too bad, because I liked the premise and Kumail Nanjiani was really good as the lead. Should have trimmed all the fat off this one.

Anybody else catch that both episodes had visual nods to classic TZ episodes as Easter eggs? And the "Nightmare" episode even seemed to have a reference to the "Comedian" one.

I'm intrigued enough to keep going. The show looks beautiful, although like Star Trek: Discovery the lighting can be kind of harsh at times. I have to admit that at the risk of sounding like a fuddy-duddy and even though I'm someone who uses the f-word all the time in real life, I'm a bit uncomfortable with the language on this new Twilight Zone.
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Posted: 03 April 2019 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Anybody else catch that both episodes had visual nods to classic TZ episodes as Easter eggs? 

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Tyler Kloster
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Posted: 04 April 2019 at 8:44am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

That's really cool, thanks!

I *thought* the David Copperfield reference was kind of a strange one...that explains it!
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Posted: 04 April 2019 at 9:57am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

That original episode and the "Talky Tina" episode give me the chills more than most. 
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Posted: 06 April 2019 at 12:00pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I haven't watched the new TWILIGHT ZONE and may never do so but I admit I never expected that Jordan PeelE would change from a comedian (in KEY AND PEELE) to a horror movie/suspense series kind of guy. Maybe it doesn't always work but I give him credit for trying to "stretch."
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