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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:11am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I remember that second page! I was blown away by the detail Kirby put into the disassembled rifle--until I noticed the break in the barrel, and realized he'd just cut the whole thing out of a manual! (Based on the rest of the page, he must really have been feeling the deadline crunch!)
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:25am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Sounds like a fun idea for a commission JB, Jean taking apart a rifle with her telekinetic powers. 
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It seems that with the loss of the "House style" also
came a loss of attempting to draw the characters with
any consistency. I have winced at some of the portrayals
of the character over the years. By and large, the
"newer guys" who got Ben are the guys who draw more
traditionally and whose influences were classic artists.
Davis, Pelletier and Di Vito draw the Thing and knock
him out of the park (despite Paul drawing fingernails on
him).


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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:38am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Alan Davis could draw wet laundry drying on the line, and it would look dynamic.
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That first page looks like a Land/Leisten combo. Has that photo friendly look. 

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I look at this Thing art and note that "on model" indeed seems to have slipped into the past. (And Mr. Byrne, I'll stick take yours or Kirby's... either is just fine!)

But what I find I hate is the evolution of the Human Torch! Jack Kirby pretty well defined the character (and the original Torch, for that matter) and Mr. Byrne carried it on proudly (as did the artists to follow Kirby.) Frank Robbins did the same for the Torch and Toro.

Suddenly, it's Johnny Storm in a red aura, and a little fire around him. What the ever-lovin' HELL is that about? I do not like, a LOT. Can't we let the Torch be the Torch?
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 10:03am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Taking this chance to post "The evolution of JB's Thing" from my collection:







I feel like it took JB a year or so for "his" Thing to show up during his run.
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One of my favorite pages of The Thing from JB, FF #245. Don't know why this one sticks out in my head...just love it. Also...pretty darn good cover!



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Something many artists seem to forget is that when drawing an existing character it’s good to pretend everybody’s looking at the same live model. Personal artistic style is fine, but it shouldn’t overwhelm the established look of the characters.
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 11:00am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I'd like to see a chart of images that shows how JB's rendition of the Thing has
changed over time.

I get such a sense of "core values" out of seeing JB's take on the character.

By that I mean the rest of Marvel Comics can go as off-model as it wants and
yet, with any new drawing of the Thing by JB, the total Marvel universe
remains somewhere - protected, potent, and ready to thrive given a chance.
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About the evolution of Ice Man: He didn't evolve, he deliberately changed his look in one issue.
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Love Dean Haspiel's take on The Thing!
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