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Shawn Kane
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And the character designs for the recent volume.
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Since the 2005 movie, there have been too many attempts at doing a "realistic" Thing. Kind of like the "practical" versions of Captain America's costume that we've gotten since the first Chris Evans Cap movie. Comic book artists basically have an unlimited special effects budget and don't have to be constrained by reality, and it never feels right when they try to downscale things so that we can get a real-world version of some fantastic, only-in-comics character.
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Too many artists seem to want him to be the Hulk. Proportions (and size) all wrong.
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BTW—Fantastic Four Four?
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Brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.
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That's such a tiny head!
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If you are going to be unique and radical at least do it in a fun appealing way like Michael Allred’s version. 








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I enjoyed the three issues Alan Davis spent drawing the FF.
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Wallace, if you liked those, ypu should get, "Fantastic Four: The End". Six issues of Alan Davis doing the FF, and much of the Marvel Universe as well. Absolutely GORGEOUS!
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Didn't care for  Pichelli's take. The Thing looked like comedian Billy Gardell covered in rocks! 
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I agree with JB's comment that too many artist get the proportions all wrong. The Thing should be massive, but via width not height.
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Some of my all-time favorite Thing moments and images have him in a trenchcoat.  Anybody drawing a Thing that could never fit in a trenchcoat have gotten things terribly wrong.
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So this is
what goes on in the current FF comic.


Nice to see them keep the LEE/KIRBY spirit of the book
alive. [sarcasm ended]
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I guess that publicity-grabbing ban on people smoking in Marvel comics has gone bye-byes.
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An element that has gotten lost over the years--and this goes all the way back to Kirby--is forgetting he's called "the Thing" for a reason. He's not something easily defined. Not "Rock Man". Not "Mr. Cobblestones". And certainly not Fozzie Bear.

The more "realistic" artists try to make him, the less monstrous he becomes. Less of a THING.

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I suppose ennui over time helps get the Thing wrong. To me it would definitely be the wrong approach for a creative team to feel so weighed down by the nearly 60[!] year history of the character that they make Ben so comfortable in his Thing-"skin" that he loses the pain of being a walking-talking monster.
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To me it would definitely be the wrong approach for a creative team to feel so weighed down by the nearly 60[!] year history of the character that they make Ben so comfortable in his Thing-"skin" that he loses the pain of being a walking-talking monster.

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Yet this is the very thinking I have encountered in some fans over the years. "He must be used to it by now!" Even ignoring that "Marvel Time" covers only a fraction of what we have experienced, could one really wake up one morning as the Elephant Man and really "get used to it"?

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Just being a fellow in his 50s and looking in the mirror and remembering what I looked like not that long ago is troubling enough...!
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Yet this is the very thinking I have encountered in some
fans over the years. "He must be used to it by now!"
Even ignoring that "Marvel Time" covers only a fraction
of what we have experienced, could one really wake up
one morning as the Elephant Man and really "get used to
it"?
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These individuals clearly have a very strong grasp of
psychology.
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One of the great additions (evolutions) Mr Byrne brought to the Thing was the forehead/eyebrow plate. You have to love the late Kirby/Sinnott through Perez muppet style "m" eyebrow on Ben but it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense...

John's redesign (refocusing) of Ben's forehead into eyebrow ridge in FF 232 has for the most part become the standard interpretation. 

*small edit for syntax.


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I guess that publicity-grabbing ban on people smoking in Marvel comics has gone bye-byes.
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I suppose they get round it by it being 'bubblegum' cigars, not real ones, despite that not making any sense (how stupid are the characters supposed to be?). Presumably hours after the game begins they are still puzzling over the non-smoking, bubblegum-smelling things in their mouths.
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Wallace, if you liked those, ypu should get, "Fantastic Four: The End". Six issues of Alan Davis doing the FF, and much of the Marvel Universe as well. Absolutely GORGEOUS!


I got the issues as they were released. It's a FANTASTIC series! (Davis' art is so incredible that his writing - which is also very good - often goes unnoticed.)

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Believe it or not, once upon a time Dan Slott was a really good writer.
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Yeah, I haven't cared for his Tony Stark: Iron Man or his Fantastic Four. I actually tweeted to two guys who work at my LCS (not including the stores Twitter handle or Slott's) about how a piece of dialogue at the beginning caused a cold stop for me and resulted in me dropping the book. Dan Slott somehow caught my comment and responded disagreeing with my reasoning. He deleted the comment and I wasn't attacking him but it was just a line that Sue says that seemed very much unlike something she'd say based on all the years I've been reading the Fantastic Four. But that line, coupled with scenes like the one Eric shared, just don't feel like the Fantastic Four to me.
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