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John Byrne
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:11am | IP Logged | 1
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I remember that second page! I was blown away by the detail Kirby put into the disassembled rifle--until I noticed the break in the barrel, and realized he'd just cut the whole thing out of a manual! (Based on the rest of the page, he must really have been feeling the deadline crunch!)
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Andrew Cate Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 February 2019 Location: United States Posts: 158
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:25am | IP Logged | 2
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Sounds like a fun idea for a commission JB, Jean taking apart a rifle with her telekinetic powers.
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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4015
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:34am | IP Logged | 3
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It seems that with the loss of the "House style" also came a loss of attempting to draw the characters with any consistency. I have winced at some of the portrayals of the character over the years. By and large, the "newer guys" who got Ben are the guys who draw more traditionally and whose influences were classic artists. Davis, Pelletier and Di Vito draw the Thing and knock him out of the park (despite Paul drawing fingernails on him).
Edited by Fred J Chamberlain on 03 June 2019 at 9:36am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:38am | IP Logged | 4
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Alan Davis could draw wet laundry drying on the line, and it would look dynamic.
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Andrew Cate Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:38am | IP Logged | 5
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That first page looks like a Land/Leisten combo. Has that photo friendly look.
Edited by Andrew Cate on 03 June 2019 at 9:39am
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 9:56am | IP Logged | 6
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I look at this Thing art and note that "on model" indeed seems to have slipped into the past. (And Mr. Byrne, I'll stick take yours or Kirby's... either is just fine!)
But what I find I hate is the evolution of the Human Torch! Jack Kirby pretty well defined the character (and the original Torch, for that matter) and Mr. Byrne carried it on proudly (as did the artists to follow Kirby.) Frank Robbins did the same for the Torch and Toro.
Suddenly, it's Johnny Storm in a red aura, and a little fire around him. What the ever-lovin' HELL is that about? I do not like, a LOT. Can't we let the Torch be the Torch?
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Jason K Fulton Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 10:03am | IP Logged | 7
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Taking this chance to post "The evolution of JB's Thing" from my collection:
I feel like it took JB a year or so for "his" Thing to show up during his run.
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Andrew Cate Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 10:05am | IP Logged | 8
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One of my favorite pages of The Thing from JB, FF #245. Don't know why this one sticks out in my head...just love it. Also...pretty darn good cover!
Edited by Andrew Cate on 03 June 2019 at 10:21am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 10:13am | IP Logged | 9
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Something many artists seem to forget is that when drawing an existing character it’s good to pretend everybody’s looking at the same live model. Personal artistic style is fine, but it shouldn’t overwhelm the established look of the characters.
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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 6059
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 11:00am | IP Logged | 10
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I'd like to see a chart of images that shows how JB's rendition of the Thing has changed over time.
I get such a sense of "core values" out of seeing JB's take on the character.
By that I mean the rest of Marvel Comics can go as off-model as it wants and yet, with any new drawing of the Thing by JB, the total Marvel universe remains somewhere - protected, potent, and ready to thrive given a chance.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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About the evolution of Ice Man: He didn't evolve, he deliberately changed his look in one issue.
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BrendanT Deneen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 11:55am | IP Logged | 12
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Love Dean Haspiel's take on The Thing!
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