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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 21 August 2019 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS would have been better served if it had been closer to a straight adaptation. It was a short story, but the love interest in the movie was the assassin in the original story!


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Posted: 22 August 2019 at 8:48pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Breaking news: Truth in advertising laws are forcing Eon productions to rename Bond 25 007: Bait and Switch.

Sorry, I'll let it go :)

No Time to Die is right up there with Tomorrow Never Dies as the best of the worst Bond movie titles. I imagine they couldn't just use the unofficial working title of Bond 25 "License to Print Money" for marketing reasons.

Absolutely agree that both the book (and the movie) From Russia With Love are great; they're my favorites in the Bond series.
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Posted: 04 December 2019 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Official Trailer for No Time to Die came out today.

The current Bond formula is in full effect: pointless fan servicing - like having Craig drive the Connery Aston DB5 and Lazenby DBS in scenes; lots of token "strong women", who are basically what a man thinks a strong woman should be; and a dessicated, "world weary" Bond, constantly on the verge of mental breakdown/retirement - which was never part of the original character - all make it a compelling case for this being the perfect time for Bond to die.

Either make the film with the character as he was bloody well written, or make another film that you want with whatever character(s) you wish, but stop bastardising existing characters to suit particular agendas to the point where they're nearly unrecognizable.


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No idea about the actual film, but that trailer looks quite interesting to me.
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Posted: 04 December 2019 at 10:19pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

The current Bond formula is in full effect: pointless fan servicing - like having Craig drive the Connery Aston DB5 and Lazenby DBS in scenes; lots of token "strong women", who are basically what a man thinks a strong woman should be

So, basically, it's a James Bond movie.

Teaser looks good to me, but giving a judgement so early seems pretty pointless.

I like Craig as Bond, but the resulting movies aren't that great. CASINO ROYALE was, though. It was so, so good, a perfect reboot. But for some reason they pulled back on it in the following films. This phase should've been awesome, but it's beyond repair now.

I still hope this next (final?) film is sorta enjoyable though.

 
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Posted: 05 December 2019 at 2:04am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

 Rodrigo castellanos wrote:
So, basically, it's a James Bond movie.


Er, no. I don't recall in the 1960s and even 70s, having Bond constantly popping up in older Aston Martins to evoke nostalgia, or recycling.. sorry, rebooting, reimagining, whatever you want to call it, the same plotlines and characters. Or Bond consistently looking like old, tired, and an absolute mess. If that's the Bond you remember from the books or the movies, then maybe we read or saw different versions of them?

The Bond I remember was a dapper, confident gentleman, who bit the bullet and got the job done without endless introspection and fatigue, he almost never fell in love, and he always drove the latest cars and had the latest in gentleman's accoutrements.

Bond was a male fantasy of life as a jet-setting spy during the height of the Cold War; he's now a sad, dilapidated doubt-ridden shadow of a man, and his adventures are anything but glamorous.

But yes, other than those details, it's a James Bond movie.
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I think you need to catch up on your Ian Fleming.

In the novels Bond is indeed often shown as tired, old and a mess and also psychologically scarred (physically too!) by the stress of his line of work. He's also shown as quite unlikable at times, in a different way than the movies.

He still rides cool cars, beds hot women and visits exotic locales of course, but these personality traits are also part of the equation.

IMHO, Craig's CASINO ROYALE was the best film adaptation of Ian Fleming's character. The films that came after, not that much. SKYFALL wasn't bad but it represented a step backwards in my opinion, with the return of the classic cars, classic M, etc. It was adapting the spirit of the movies again, rather than the novels. Bardem killed it, though.


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Yeah, Bond was on the verge of losing it and ready for retirement quite a few times. 
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He "often" seemed a tired, old mess and psychologically scarred? I honestly don't recall that being a common theme in Bond books. Granted, I last read them over 20 years ago, but am I misremembering?

Certainly, the movies became popular because Connery didn't spend 90% of the screen time looking like a cat had dragged him through a sewer, and that he constantly had doubts about his work or was pining for some woman he'd loved and lost.

/EDIT: I think On Her Majesty's Secret Service and You Only Live Twice are the two books where he really wants to quit; in other places he simply wonders what life would be like if he left the service. Not quite the same as the drained, shattered man Craig is now frequently portraying.

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I just re-read all the Fleming novels this past spring. Yes, you are misremembering. 
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The Bond I remember was a dapper, confident gentleman, who bit the bullet and got the job done without endless introspection and fatigue, he almost never fell in love, and he always drove the latest cars and had the latest in gentleman's accoutrements.

The word "gentleman" I also find unfit to describe Bond. At best I'd say he's a worldly thug. He knows how to behave in an embassy soiree/elite villain party or whatever but in the end what he relishes is drinking, fighting and getting laid. 

I think the Roger Moore version established him in the public consciousness as this suave, superficial playboy type but that's very different from the Fleming Bond. 

Fleming shows a Bond with borderline sociopathic behavior, somewhat depressed and tired (depending on the novel) and in many occasions as a cruel misogynist. This is not a modern "woke" interpretation, Fleming the writer presents these traits as wrong even for their time.

And of course Fleming having been an intelligence officer himself knew the "type" of person that did this kind of work in real life, and I think he was not far off.

I say this as a huge Bond fan, and I think that baggage makes him a far more interesting character than the "gentleman" with the cool cars and the hot girls that always wins with an unscathed pretty boy face (basically, Roger Moore's version).

I find the Fleming Bond much more compelling and in the movies I think only Connery and Craig made him justice (at times).

 
   


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I haven't read a single Bond book, but as a kid I knew the films backwards.
At school, we were given a passage from Bond to read as we were studying different approaches to death.

Bond was used to illustrate complete lack of care for fellow individuals as he watched someone get killed as we would watch a movie.
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