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Leigh DJ Hunt
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 5:55am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Why is it dangerous? Seems pretty likely that Trump or some other powerful person who he was connected to, had him killed.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 8:09am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Apparently, the Clintons had him killed. 
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Philippe Negrin
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 9:49am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Yeah I just read that Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew (of England) were regular guests in his "Lolita Plane" and Islands of Sin...Scary stuff...
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Philippe Negrin
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 9:52am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Leigh...Can you read aloud the sentence you just wrote ?
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 10:24am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Epstein had friends in very high places, presidents and other politicans from both parties. But as much as it's easy to want to immediately implicate Trump in anything salacious, so far victim testimony has specifically said that he had no involvement.
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Well, here I go reversing my previous post a bit. Just read about him retweeting a theory that the Clintons are responsible. Now hes at least a piece of shit at best, or covering up his own involvement at worst. 
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Jason Czeskleba
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

The notion that anyone (Clinton, Trump, whoever) had him killed is patently ridiculous. People these days will believe anything (or manufacture any "fact" necessary) to give them political advantage. 


Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 11 August 2019 at 12:27pm
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I'm with you there Jason. Though I would be inclined to believe someone helped him do the job by, looking the other way, giving him or letting him keep the item used as a noose, not doing the regular check in walk. Or whomever ok'd removing the the suicide watch. 
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John Harrison
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I had to do a weekend in jail about 20 years ago.  Every hour I was asked stand up acknowledge that I was asked about my health that I was not going to harm myself and if I needed to eat or wanted water to drink.  Every 2 or so hours I was physically checked for harm or to see if I had snuck something in that could harm me.  I was not on a suicide watch nor was I there for anything serious.  When I hear these stories about someone being able to kill themselves I don't know it just doesn't add up.  From last I heard they have cameras in most cells.  I'm not saying it's impossible but I was told point blank by the officer "We don't anyone to get hurt or hurt themselves you are our guest."  

 
So a guy w millions w good lawyers on a suicide watch and I'm assuming in sort of isolation this doesn't add up to me.  
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Jason Czeskleba
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 9:34pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

The only theory that even remotely seems plausible to me is that Epstein bribed the guards/authorities to look the other way so he could kill himself.  He certainly knew his chances of avoiding conviction were slim and his chances of saving his reputation were zero.  He knew he almost certainly was going to jail branded as a child rapist, which apparently is the crime most likely to get you beaten and raped on a regular basis in prison.  It's not at all hard to believe he'd want to kill himself under these circumstances, and it seems possible a person of his means might find a way to pay off the necessary people to allow this to happen.  

But the notion that he was murdered is just plain silly.
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 11 August 2019 at 10:19pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Bribery for "privacy" does seem like the most likely conspiracy here. Weren't there allegations of him bribing the hell out of the police during his last go-round in Florida? This may have been the best he could get away with this time.
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Philippe Negrin
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 4:43am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I never said he was killed, I said he was not prevented from committing suicide. Small difference.
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