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Ed Fahey
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Watching the first Cap movie last night it struck me how ubiquitous drinking seems to be in the Marvel movies. The Howlers bar scene, Cap drinking after Bucky's death, etc. Then I remembered the first Avengers' movie with Loki asking for a drink after he was beaten by the Hulk, Dr. Strange filling Thors' glass with never ending brew, and on and on and on. Even Guardians of the Galaxy had a drinking scene in the middle of the universe. The entire Thor Ragnarok movie may be the most egregious example of this trend.
Did the Ant-Man and Marvel Spider-man movies have any such scenes?
It seems drinking has replaced 80's and 90's smoking as the chosen vice of hollywood. Or maybe I am just being old and jaded.
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John Byrne
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Drinking is COOL and SOPHISTICATED! >urp<Frankly, I am surprised that they seem to have sidestepped the wretched alcoholism plotline for Tony Stark. Perhaps someone realized that having turned his origin into a redemption story, there was really no need for another one.
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Ed Fahey
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I get that "coolness" is the driving force, I guess it's just the sheer volume of scenes and characters like Cap taking part I'm finding pretty over the top.
Tony Stark drinking a highball is very much a part of the character which makes sense. It's the rest I'm not so sure...
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Michael Penn
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Perhaps Robert Downey Jr, given his personal history, didn't want to be engaged in an addiction tale? Let's see if they jump on alcoholism with the next Iron Man. I have "faith" in Hollywood.
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John Byrne
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The alcoholism storyline won Marvel a lot of attention from civilian sources. Reviewers who were unfamiliar with the character BEFORE that story, and therefore did not see how arbitrarily it had been forced on Tony Stark.
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Marc Baptiste
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JB,
i agree with you, and it if it was "forced" onto Tony Stark/Iron Man, it was absolutely SLEDGEHAMMERED onto Carol Danvers.
Marc
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Matt Hawes
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The "Wizard magazine" publication "Toyfare" featured a regular fumetti strip with toys where the Iron Man being an alcoholic was used for humor. The joke being that he was always drunk.
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John Byrne
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Alcoholism is a goldmine for boffo yoks.
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Doug Centers
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They seem to hearken back to the "Golden Age" of movies where martini's, scotch and clinking glasses were prevalent. Of course then it was often accompanied by a smoke.
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Michael Roberts
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Perhaps Robert Downey Jr, given his personal history, didn't want to be engaged in an addiction tale? Let's see if they jump on alcoholism with the next Iron Man. I have "faith" in Hollywood.
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RDJ was reportedly up for it. I think Disney (correctly) assumed that audiences would be uncomfortable watching an actor with a history of substance abuse problems play out an alcoholism storyline on-screen in what is otherwise supposed to be a fun superhero movie.
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Bill Collins
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I don`t mind the drinking, it`s how a lot of friends and
workmates socialise. As for Thor, he`s an Asgardian, i
would be shocked if he didn`t like the odd flagon of
mead.
The Avengers eating Shawarma at the end of the first
film could be argued as promoting junk food, so i think
it`s best to just accept that they eat crap and drink
booze after saving the world!
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Michael Roberts
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| Posted: 16 August 2019 at 10:39am | IP Logged | 12
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The Avengers eating Shawarma at the end of the first film could be argued as promoting junk food
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How dare you sir!
ETA: Unless your autocorrect replaces “deliciousness” with “junk food”, in which case I take it back.
Edited by Michael Roberts on 16 August 2019 at 10:40am
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