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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 9:53am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I just heard Gordon Ramsay say “bollocks” so I assume that’s a swear.

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“Balls” on this side of the Pond.

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Shane Matlock
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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 10:21am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Swearing is fine when it's used to emphasize a point but when overused it does tend to make someone sound less intelligent. That said, I tend to swear way too much in person, though I try to mostly abstain from it on this board and, say, Facebook because work and family. Funny story, I let my dad read one of my short stories once and his only comment about it was why did I have to use the word the F-word, which I used I think twice in a five page short story. Why did I use it? Because that's how people actually talk, especially in anger. It's why an HBO show sounds more authentic than a network show where the swear words get alternatives that no one uses in real life. It's funny to watch the edited for TV versions of movies with lots of swearing in them. The edited version of The Big Lebowski is a hoot. 

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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 10:39am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I used to swear to make a sailor blush, so yeah, I indulged.

But I've come to realize that I'm better than that. It doesn't mean that I don't still, a little (I expect there will be quite a few expletives flying around tonight during the Los Angeles Rams at Cleveland Browns football contest), but mostly these days I only do so publicly if I'm really frustrated or really tired.

I have a pretty large vocabulary, and a pretty swell imagination. So I don't NEED to swear. I'm smarter than that.

In context, however, if I'm with a group who swears, I can certainly hold my own. But a tremendous amount of time is with people who don't need to hear it (as I spend a lot of time acting in community theatre with lots of kids around.) And it's kinda fun to call, say, 45, as a rodent raping pony molesting sack of decayed whale waste.

However, if the language is going to be used in context in a film or TV show, I despise network censors who switch it out to an easy replacement. I think bleeping it out still works.

And really... who didn't want to hear Nick Fury say, "There are fucking Hydra on this fucking Quinjet!"
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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 10:46am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

There's a Tom Selleck movie from the 90's called 'An Innocent Man', where David Rasche calls Tom's on-screen wife a 'C**T'.

The movie itself is 'TV movie' fare, but I can still remember how much that shocked me.

Oh for the days when 'Fanny' was the common slang word for female genitalia (in the UK, of course!).
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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 11:28am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

When I was a sailor, I swore like a sailor. It's part of the atmosphere. Being around other young males, being frustrated a lot, and no one else cares if you do. When I started college and would throw out an "F" other students would be SHOCKED at my language.

I teach K-4 now. I'm very able to turn the language down, as it isn't appropriate at my work setting.
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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 11:34am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Fanny has a totally different meaning over here, yet
ZZ Top`s Legs is never censored on the radio.
Similarly, Married With Children had Wanker County,
and i think it was Peggy`s maiden name, which tickled
me when it was shown in the U.K.The "C" word is
probably the harshest word, and as J.B. says can refer
to either sex.I worked in the steel industry for 25
years, and it was an eye opener when i first started!
My supervisor swore constantly, and i used to joke
that if you subtracted the swear words from anything
he said, you were left with "the" "of" "and" "you".I
know work in the retail sector, so swearing is less
commonplace.I tend to swaer more when driving!

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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 11:53am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Hey Bill, I have an uncle Wally who insisted on being called Alan after Del Boy turned the word into an insult in Only Fools & Horses.

Del Boy also used Pranny and Plonker in equal measure and a few others too
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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Bill, Craig - you remember the book 'How to be a Wally' from the '80's?
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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I`d term Plonker, Pranny and Wally to be gentle insults
rather than swear words!
I do recall getting a clip round the ear for saying
"Cobblers" when i was a kid, i was in a shop with my
mom, and read it aloud from the front of a pair of
"comedy" Y-fronts on sale! It`s Cobbler`s Awls+Balls in
Cockney Rhyming slang! My mom was very apologetic when
she realised i was just reading aloud!
Mind you, she never realised (nor did i) that calling my
brother a "Berk" (a common insult in 70`s Britain) was
rhyming slang for Berkshire Hunt=The "C" word!
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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

It seems best, in my opinion, to let cussing be an adult activity that grown ups
do around other grown ups when they're really comfortable or really upset.

Cussing in front of kids can lead to a lot of complications that aren't obvious at
first.

edit: I don't mean I want to stop young adults from cussing, so to speak, but
cussing as a teen is (imo) at its best when it's done on the down-low,
special/almost forbidden.

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This thread can go to blazes!





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Posted: 22 September 2019 at 1:10pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Great Scott!
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