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Mal Gardiner
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Yeah, they did a thing where Pyro heated Peter red hot then Avalanche dumped a liquid nitrogen tanker on him to catastrophic effect.
Loving the interplay between the different styles of characters - the high intellect guys, the bruisers, the old soldiers, the fliers - lovely bit of scripting across this whole project.
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James Johnson
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.....and just when you think things couldn't get any worse for the X-Men......
That's a great Phoenix effect, JB!
Edited by James Johnson on 26 February 2020 at 7:26am
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John Byrne
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That's a great Phoenix effect, JB!•• Thanks! I pity the fool who tries to ink it!!
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Peter Martin
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Yes, awesome panel with the Phoenix effect.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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One of the best pic of the Phoenix i ever saw, maybe even the best ever, as i thought when i saw this page, but of course the emotion of seeing a seing a new great image may fool me, so i'm going with "one of the best".
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John Byrne
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Meanwhile, I found this on Google:------- …But there are some characters who became mutants after there [sic] birth. Fantastic 4. Daredevil. Hulk. Spiderman Ms. Marvel. Inhumans. Deadpool ------- NONE OF THOSE ARE MUTANTS!!! Roy Thomas gave us a perfectly good term to describe the likes of them, non-mutant variants. This is the SHAZAM effect. Fans who don't know any better call the characters by the wrong names/terms, and eventually the writers start calling them by the wrong names/terms. The mistakes become carved in stone.
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John Byrne
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…so i'm going with "one of the best".•• I'll allow it.
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Richard Palmgren
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Are we up to three nail-biting cliffhangers or four? This issue is not for those with weak hearts.
Quick question (semi-related):
Was the printed cover to 138 ALWAYS the intended cover for 138 even after the changed ending of 137?
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David Schmidt
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This is the SHAZAM effect. Fans who don't know any better call the characters by the wrong names/terms, and eventually the writers start calling them by the wrong names/terms. The mistakes become carved in stone.
There is also a curious recent urge to link erverything that happened in the MU. It started with books like Earth X or this SHIELD book where you learn Howard Stark and Nathaniel Richards were buddies in a secret organisation... I almost fell asleep writing this...
With Apocalypse and Mr Sinister, the X-Men history began to look like X-Files...
So... mutants, Inhumans, mutates... everything is interconnected in some way now.
Edited by David Schmidt on 26 February 2020 at 8:08am
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Michael Genitempo
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Thanks! I pity the fool who tries to ink it!!
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Almost better to not ink it at all and let a colorist only at it... (except for the Shi'ar ship) if only to preserve the effect of the pencils.
Good grief -Lilandra seems to have really messed things up!
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Eric Ladd
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I think page 18 qualifies as a money shot. I think everyone's brains are getting scrambled in the coming months.
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John Byrne
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Claremont can take a big mea culpa as far as muddying the waters on what constitutes a mutant.
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