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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 132135
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 7:46am | IP Logged | 1
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Confederate flags and THIS.
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 31 January 2014 Location: United States Posts: 4789
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 8:00am | IP Logged | 2
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Nazi flag and a semi-automatic rifle lying around. Because you never know when the wrong girl scout will come to the door... "Hi, my name is Miriam and I'm selling cookies for-" "GID OUTTA HERE, YA LITTLE JEW, OR I'LL BLOW YER DANGED HEAD OFFEN YER NECK!"
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Byron Graham Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 927
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 8:41am | IP Logged | 3
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It's like their personal motto is "Aim low." The lower your goals, the easier it is to achieve them.
Edited by Byron Graham on 01 July 2020 at 8:42am
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7581
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 9:29am | IP Logged | 4
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Mention of Jew above makes me ask this question. Trump is backing a lot of what Israel is doing. So why are his supporters quite often anti-Jew? How do they square that?
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Marc Baptiste Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3655
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 10:10am | IP Logged | 5
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James,
Easy one. Evangelical Christians - a key... no, THE key base of Trump's support are STRONG supporters of the State of Israel. Not for any great altruistic reasons, but because of it's place in Biblical prophecy.
Marc
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Byron Graham Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 927
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 10:24am | IP Logged | 6
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"...as foretold by prophecy, or so I'm told." - Trump, probably.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7581
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 11:49am | IP Logged | 7
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I get that Marc, except his white Supremacist brigade seem to be completely anti-Jew. Somehow, he has both sides convinced he’s on their side, yet they are diametrically opposed in their views.
How does he do that?
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 7467
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | 8
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No idea why some people adopt the aesthetic, buy the props and dress up in the symbols of the most hateful losers in history. The Confederacy and Nazi Germany deserve to be left in museums, to be studied for the ways mankind lost its freaking mind.
It is the burden of a free society that it is obliged (to a point) to tolerate expressions of thought that are anathema to a free society.
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Marc Baptiste Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3655
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 12:41pm | IP Logged | 9
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James,
I think 4+ years of talking out of ALL sides of his mouth has managed to convince the many facets of his "base" that he is "secretly" on their side.
Marc
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Conrad Teves Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 January 2014 Location: United States Posts: 2160
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | 10
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Marc>>talking out of ALL sides of his mouth<<
You misspelled "ass."
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4410
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 1:08pm | IP Logged | 11
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A lot of white people in the southern U.S. do not learn, or maybe even hear about, the slavery aspect of the civil war (John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry having no connection to events that ensued). Many look(ed) upon the Confederate star and bars flag, monuments and statues as just an identifier of southerness, heritage, like a sports team jersey/logo/team their father and grandfather also cheered for.
The nazi crap just seems to be more a typical schoolboy like for the dress-up as the bad guys thing and to provoke just to provoke? Except of course for those who are not like that but heavily into the alternate world thing.
One grandfather of mine shot nazis. You could make a case how it could be my heritage to shoot them as well (the Makah native band made that case and won for hunting a humpback whale), and like a Van Helsing puts wooden stakes through vampires. I wonder if it would hold up in court though. If someone genuinely thought one of these goth kids who would go so far as consuming real blood was an actual darkchyle of the night blah blah blah (some have convinced themselves of it perhaps), would a wooden stake killing then be 1st degree or even 2nd degree murder? But your Honor... I saw a genuine threat to humans... I had to do it. Maybe if it had stayed legal to kill identified nazis anywhere after the war...
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Jeffrey Rice Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 September 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1161
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Posted: 01 July 2020 at 2:49pm | IP Logged | 12
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I am not an insignificant nobody. I am part of the grand experiment that will rise again stronger! ...some day....and by someone with more money and planning skills...
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