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Neil Lindholm
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Posted: 09 July 2020 at 1:47am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It's a show about two good ol' boys, never meaning' no harm. They fight the system like two modern day Robin Hoods. What is there not to like?
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I think it’d be accurate to say I have nostalgia for DUKES, but I probably wouldn’t be able to stand it if I tried watching it today. I’ll fight Matt Reed if he has anything bad to say about BJ AND THE BEAR though. 

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Nobody can find fault with BJ McKay and his best friend. 
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I, too, have fond memories of the Dukes. I guess, being from a small
town in the South, most of the characters were a reminder of people I
might know or a town that looks familiar. Sort of like THE ANDY
GRIFFITH SHOW. Of course no one had a car that could jump over a
building, but everything was relatable.

Except the loyalty to Dixie. I've never understood the affection towards
the stars and bars or the confederacy. I really can't think of anyone in
my family that flies the flag or taught me about how great the
confederacy was when I was growing up. Sure, I've had regional pride,
but it certainly does not have anything to do with the failed secession. I
see it more along the lines of rival towns in high school football or the
SEC vs the Big 10. (Nowadays, I just want to get the fuck out of here).
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Rebecca Jansen
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Wasn't there a comic book titled Captain Confederacy? I'm sure I remember seeing it in the '80s. No idea what it was about other than an attempt at a regional Captain America. Watch it go up in price now... :^(
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Matt,
I'm from West Virginia. I live in the country. I was born in 1973 so I was 6 when it started. I love the car chases, the jumps, the explosives on bows and arrows, I enjoy the humor, I enjoy the theme song. No one gets shot in the face or raped. It reminds me of being a kid, the name of the car and the flag aren't that relevant to me. I own the first couple of seasons on DVD, like I do Magnum P.I., the A-Team, The Fall Guy, and Miami Vice. I even own a few seasons of the Love Boat on DVD. 

Matt, I understand why you would think the show is dumb but I didn't and don't. I also notice that you seem to call out people who don't share your likes or those you disagree with. I appreciate that you're trying to understand why people do/like stuff you don't like. You did this in the New Comic Book thread years ago about those of us who still buy comics. We all have differences.


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Posted: 09 July 2020 at 1:58pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

DUKES OF HAZARD

Maybe it was because I was an “outsider”, up there in Canada. Or maybe it was my fascination with Abraham Lincoln and the American Civil War. But when it came to the Dukes I couldn’t get past the car. Named for a traitor whose actions killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. Festooned with the symbol of a corrupt and traitorous regime. There was no way I could enjoy a show about those people.

(ANDY GRIFFITH is a false equivalency. It was set in the South, but it did not extoll the Confederacy. The stories it told could as easily have been set in Connecticut.)

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I watched Dukes of Hazzard for two reasons. Catherine Bach.
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Ted Pugliese
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For two reasons lol :-)
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Ted Pugliese
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As for the General Lee (the car), it was all part of the
same ol' Lost Cause narrative that drilled Americans,
and especially Southerners, with the idea that they (the
South, and especially the Old South, were right all
along, even though they lost the war.

Hiding racism and the promotion of racism behind good
ol' southern pride and hospitality.

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My mother went to a segregated school system in Alabama. She was taught about the "War of Northern Aggression" and that the confederacy was all about state's rights, not slavery. She remarked to me once about how easy it was to believe segregation was working when she was young, because that's what she was taught and she never talked to a black person until she was in High School.

Anyway, I liked Dukes at first, but got bored with the show quickly. I never knew the racist meaning of the Confederate's flag until I was in college. And I grew up in a small town in Ohio. One or two black students in the district. I made several friends of all different colors and backgrounds when I was in the Navy.
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There wasn't anything in the show that made me think that racism was being promoted. They always did good and often did it in the face of a corrupt police force. Boss Hogg, the main villain, was Jefferson Davis Hogg so I don't feel the show upheld the honor of the Confederacy. Plus his brother who was the exact opposite of him was named Abraham Lincoln Hogg. I try not to overthink it honestly.
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