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John Byrne
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Howard Mackie and I tried to steer May toward a more realistic look.
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I know that Mr. Byrne looks a little roadworn for the 37 years old  HE is.

Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
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That cover works for me, JB!
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...37...

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From about the time puberty hit people said I looked 35. That really lasted until the white hair started to arrive.

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Doing a little Shi’ar googling, to be sure I’d no major threads to tie up, given where I’ve left things. What a mess!! It seems as if Marvel embarked on a deliberate campaign to make things as convoluted as possible.

Oh, and Xavier has a twin sister??

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Only two more sleeps!
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I tried to write up what I knew of Xavier's twin--Cassandra Nova--but it just makes my head hurt.
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Did she work in the lab with Xavier, Moira, Magneto, and all the rest?
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'ELSEWHEN' is more 'real' to me than anything Marvel did with the X-Men after the early 80s.  
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 QUOTE:
'ELSEWHEN' is more 'real' to me than anything Marvel did with the X-Men after the early 80s.
   

I'm with you, Dean. After JB's departure from the title, I quickly learned whose hand on the wheel it was that had steered the book in ways I enjoyed.
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Yet you and Dean must be in the minority, Wallace. As I have pointed out many times, the book took off after I left.
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 JB wrote:

Yet you and Dean must be in the minority, Wallace. As I have pointed out many times, the book took off after I left.

A few thoughts along those lines:

1) Don't mistake quantity for quality. If that were true, then a mid-sized Honda would be the pinnacle of cars ever made.
2) Momentum of a solid foundation carried it along for a time. Then the book became something else (ELSEWHAT?). Trashy romance novels sell too.
3) There is nothing wrong with being in the minority. Mass appeal caters to the lowest common denominator. What matters is the quality of those early issues that resonated (and continues) to resonate forward in time. How well something ages is a much better indicator of it's worth than opening weekend box-office sales. Really. The fact the stories keep reaching back and ignoring all the dead-end stories in between then and the present is testimonial in-and-of-itself.

You did a powerfully great thing with X-men --- a Lee & Kirby-like thing. And you continue to add to that here. You must know that.

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