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Conrad Teves
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Posted: 17 November 2022 at 6:59pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Perhaps it's a subtle message to his wife?
Seriously though, the bar can always go lower with the GOP.

Everybody brace themselves for Hunter Biden's Laptop caravan from Benghazi!
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Posted: 18 November 2022 at 6:29am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I’m going to have to look this up.

How do you vote against protecting interracial marriage? What possible
parameters could there be in such a bill?

People can refuse to marry a couple because they are different races? That
type of crap?

Are you moving to the 1800s?
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Posted: 18 November 2022 at 4:31pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

"How do you vote against protecting interracial marriage? What possible
parameters could there be in such a bill?"

The bill also protects same sex marriages.  He opposed it on that basis.  He is not opposed to inter racial marriages.  

I disagree with McConnell's position on same sex marriage, so I'm not taking his side by explaining this; just pointing out that its inaccurate to say he opposes inter racial marriage. 
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 18 November 2022 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I suspected as much, but … aside from same sex marriage, why is interracial
marriage even in the bill?

That’s the bit I really don’t understand
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Posted: 18 November 2022 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

The bill is entitled the Respect for Marriage Act, and thus is broadly supportive of marriage, not targeted only to support same-sex marriage:

§ 1738C. Certain acts, records, and proceedings and the effect thereof

“(a) In General.—No person acting under color of State law may deny—

“(1) full faith and credit to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State pertaining to a marriage between 2 individuals, on the basis of the sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin of those individuals; or

“(2) a right or claim arising from such a marriage on the basis that such marriage would not be recognized under the law of that State on the basis of the sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin of those individuals.
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Posted: 18 November 2022 at 10:34pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Thanks Michael. I can see why that might be needed with the way things are
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Posted: 18 November 2022 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Interracial marriage is also in the bill because it's one of the rights that became endangered when the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. Per Clarance Thomas's statement, the original Roe decision was based on a Constitutional right to privacy (broader than that, but for the purpose of this thread) that the current Court decided doesn't really exist.  But as a prior ruling - "stare decisis" - many other Supreme Court rulings that protected things like same-sex marriage, the right to buy contraception over-the-counter, and interracial marriage rely on that definition of the right to privacy.

Note that Thomas SPECIFICALLY called out birth control (Griswold v. Connecticutsame-sex sexual relations (Lawrence v. Texas), and same-sex marriage (Obergefell), saying "we have a duty to 'correct the error' established in those precedents."

Now, because Thomas is a total self-dealing creep, he left out Loving v. Virginia (ie, ending miscegenation laws), but as Thomas's wider argument was that any prior decision that wasn't 100% based on his own Originalist reading of the Constitution was invalid and worth revisiting, Loving v. Virginia would, in fact, also be vulnerable.  Quite valid to put it into the bill, from my perspective, as no-one ever lost betting on the political might of America's racial divisions.


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