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Eric Ladd
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Rubenstein’s animation analogy isn’t apples to apples either. People aren’t adding backgrounds directly to animation cells. Are people taking animation sketches and having them inked and colored to look Like film cells? I don’t agree with coloring comic line art any more than I would want to see Buscema sketches inked or even the ones he started to ink completed.
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Michael Murphy
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Well, I guess the owner is free to do with the art what they will but I would never do it.
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Eric Ladd
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Yes, you own it and can do what you want with it, but ownership should involve some level of responsibility without recklessness. Case in point.
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Brian Miller
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Of course, Rubenstein has no problem inking pencil sketches that were
never meant to be inked, either.
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Shaun Barry
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But here's another question: Are owners of original artwork really "owners?" Or just temporary custodians?
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Mark Haslett
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In terms of what was "intended", if we go by the way comic books were first created, the original art was intended to be ripped up and thrown out.
But it's pure justification to say the intentions of turning art into comic books makes coloring original art fulfill its original purpose.
You might as well fold the original art down the center and throw it under a young reader's bed since that's a comic book's intended fate.
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Richard Stevens
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It's a war crime. Scan the damn thing and color that.
Next question: What kind of Sharpie should I let my kid use to practice inking these Kirby pencils I smuggled out of the Smithsonian?
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Petter Myhr Ness
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No! It's a travesty.
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John Byrne
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Invoking "intent" is like saying the White Star line "intended" to kill all thos passengers on the Titanic since everybody knew what would happen if the ship sank with fewer lifeboats that would be needed to evacuate all the passengers and crew.
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Matt Hawes
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When I pressed Rubinstein on why not just color a copy and leave the original as it is, being that's the best of both worlds, he finally stopped avoiding the question but basically gave another version of his view that the artwork was created to be in color stance.
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John Byrne
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…the artwork was created to be in color…•• The artwork was created in pencil, and many times is shot from the pencils, so he's entirely superfluous, yes?
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James Woodcock
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This reminds me of the discussion about old Star Wars
figures (the first ones) that are still in packages.
Should someone who buys these open them? Or should they
really just buy an already open figure since there are
plenty around?
I fall in to the latter camp.
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