Look at Ultron, The Lizard, Klaw, Wolverine - their actions and dialogue --  Molecule Man (a continuation of Shooter's Avengers storyline from a few years earlier where he completely and inexplicably changed the Molecule Man's personality).  And 1000 times worse than Spider-Man vs the X-Men (which I never had a problem with. Short, quick skirmish), is Ben Grimm and Hawkeye playing pattycake with the Lizard and Klaw. Pattycake. 

They kept things more to the Annuals like Armageddon 2001 and The Darkness Within.

As for Infinity Gauntlet / War / Crusade they seemed to be never ending intrusions on books over a 3 year period.  

It always struck me that he fixed a number of problems at Marvel such as ensuring books were on time, expanding and developing Marvels books and having an eye for talent.

An interview I watched with Tom DeFalco did say that Shooter did become too strict / dictorial with his editorial mandates, and that under DeFalco's run as EiC he tried to empower the editors and creators more than they were used to during the last few years of the Shooter period.

If Shooter had walked away from Marvel after Secret Wars, I think history may have viewed him in a different light.

I wasn't counting these because they were either confined to the annuals (which could be skipped without impacting the storyline in the monthly books), or in the case of Acts of Vengeance, only included the Avengers family of titles. 

Likewise, from DC I wouldn't count Janus Directive, JLApes, Ghosts, or whatever they called the event where the annuals had the Pulp theme.  

Crisis, Legends, Milennium, Invasion, War of the Gods, Armageddon 2001, etc. each crossed over the entire DC universe, and included a miniseries that was supported by multiple tie-ins.  

Maybe that's nitpicking, but I feel like the huge, line wide crossovers tend to produce a lot more crappy books than the more contained events.

After Crisis and Legends, its hard to find a really good DC crossover; including Genesis (Sorry John).  I'm sure one of the reasons is too many cooks in the kitchen.

The spin offs, etc. happened after the man story was resolved.

Acts of Vengenace carried on in to the following (non-Avengers titles):

Form what I've seen of the "Imae Story", MacFarlane was leading the charge and Liefeld went along fpr the ride. It always seemed that Jim lee was the more reluctant participant to a point, and Silvestri, Portacio and Valentino had their own reasons.

But, MacFarlane has a hatred for DC and Marvel, and really just wanted to stick it to them as well.

Would those artists have got put on the pedestal they were?

What do you see here?