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Matt Tauber
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I was born in 1972, and like many of you grew up watching "Superfriends" and the like before I ever got into comics.  I do recall getting a couple of 3/bag comics one Christmas, Marvel & Whitman stuff.  In 1982, my older brothers were into comics a few months before I was, so I was familiar with them, but not ga-ga.  The first comic that I bought with my own money was 'Star Wars' #60, because I was curious about comics and curious how this fit in with one of my favorite movies.  I quickly branched out into Captain America, Iron Man, and, yes, Captain Carrot.

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That Joe Kubert Hawkman cover really stands out in that group, doesn't it?

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There are really good artists, and there are really good comicbook artists, and often they are not the same thing. Jack Kirby, for instance, was a moderately good artist, but he was one of the best comicbook artists of all time. Curt Swan, on the other hand, was a truly superb artist, but in some odd fashion that stood in the way of him being a truly great comicbook artist.

Kubert, however, was and is an extraordinary fushion of both. A superb artist, and one of the best comicbook artists ever to work in the field.

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The 1960s Spider-Man cartoon, Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends and Super Friends were probably my first exposure to comic book characters.

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John Mietus
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 John Byrne wrote:
Kubert, however, was and is an extraordinary
fushion of both. A superb artist, and one of the best comicbook artists
ever to work in the field.


No arguments here. And to think -- he got his start in the industry by
sweeping up Will Eisner's eraser shavings.

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 John Byrne wrote:

There are really good artists, and there are really good comicbook artists, and often they are not the same thing.

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Where do you think Alex Ross lies on that spectrum ?

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I was introduced to comics by all the cartoons that were out when I was a
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Years later I actually bought a comic.
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[QUOTE=John Mietus]That Joe Kubert Hawkman cover really stands out in that group, doesn't
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I love Kubert, and it's a nice cover, but I don't think it's head and shoulders over the rest of them--there really isn't a bad one in the bunch, though the Batman is pretty standard stuff.  In fact, if I were to pick a favorite, the nod would go to the Gil Kane Atom cover, which I think is one of the great covers of the silver age. 

Because I'm about the same age as JB, we share some of these firsts--i.e., the Flash, B&B JLA, Hawkman, and Metalmen.  He beat me on Green Lantern, which I didn't find until his final tryout appearance with the Invisible Destroyer on the cover.

The Kubert cover raises another point for me though, which is that I always thought that the mask without wings was the best--the most birdlike, Hawklike.  I understand the wings as a decorative element, but I still prefer the character as Kubert originally (re)designed him.  This book was really my introduction to Kubert, as I wasn't a fan of war material at the time--his rich blacks and versatile textures were a revelation to me.  As quite a young kid I had seen and liked the Viking Prince, but had little awareness of artists at that point. 

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There are really good artists, and there are really good comicbook artists, and often they are not the same thing.

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Where do you think Alex Ross lies on that spectrum?

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Much the same position as Kirby. On a purely technical level Ross' work is fairly pedestrian (tho vastly better than anything I could do), but as The-Guy-Who-Paints-Superheroes, clearly he is far above most others in the field.

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That Joe Kubert Hawkman cover really stands out in that group, doesn't
it?

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I think that Kubert peaked artistically with Hawkman. The character looks
great, especially without the side wings on his helmet. I always thought
that, with his actual wings, the helmet wings made the character look too
busy. Without them he looks more like, well, a HAWK.
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I first encountered Superheroes via The Superman/Superboy cartoons (by Filmation I believe) in the early 70's and Batman and Robin believe it or not as guest stars in Scooby Doo. 

 

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Wow really impressed that you guys can remember where and when...for me it must have been the Batman show I think since I had a Batman costume and rubber ring (!) when I was three or so in 1967/8 ...used to read my friend's comics ( because his parents had a car and so could go to the market in the nearby town regularly) - these were DC so my earliest memories are Batman and things like The Justice League (which I loved!) ...but in 1972 (I think) Marvel began to reprint Fantastic Four, Spider-man and the Hulk in The mighty World of Marvel and my life was changed...the Spider-man cartoon had a great deal to do with it and I used to love Mighty Mouse because it was an animated character with super powers, which was rre indeed back then in the UK...although I do have vague memories of a Fantastic Four animated series from about the same time....I also loved Marine Boy as a kind of bargain basement Namor, and anything in which the characters had super powers...like The Champions, a British show that has vanished without trace...
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A few clues to a lifetime of mad love:





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