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Matt Tauber Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 April 2004 Posts: 178
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 7:13am | IP Logged | 1
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I was born in 1972, and like many of you grew up watching "Superfriends" and the like before I ever got into comics. I do recall getting a couple of 3/bag comics one Christmas, Marvel & Whitman stuff. In 1982, my older brothers were into comics a few months before I was, so I was familiar with them, but not ga-ga. The first comic that I bought with my own money was 'Star Wars' #60, because I was curious about comics and curious how this fit in with one of my favorite movies. I quickly branched out into Captain America, Iron Man, and, yes, Captain Carrot.
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John Byrne
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Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 102266
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 7:45am | IP Logged | 2
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That Joe Kubert Hawkman cover really stands out in that group, doesn't it? ***** There are really good artists, and there are really good comicbook artists, and often they are not the same thing. Jack Kirby, for instance, was a moderately good artist, but he was one of the best comicbook artists of all time. Curt Swan, on the other hand, was a truly superb artist, but in some odd fashion that stood in the way of him being a truly great comicbook artist. Kubert, however, was and is an extraordinary fushion of both. A superb artist, and one of the best comicbook artists ever to work in the field.
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Joe Hollon Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 13675
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 8:07am | IP Logged | 3
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The 1960s Spider-Man cartoon, Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends and Super Friends were probably my first exposure to comic book characters.
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John Mietus Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 9704
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 8:08am | IP Logged | 4
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John Byrne wrote:
Kubert, however, was and is an extraordinary
fushion of both. A superb artist, and one of the best comicbook artists
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No arguments here. And to think -- he got his start in the industry by
sweeping up Will Eisner's eraser shavings.
Edited by John Mietus on 14 May 2005 at 8:09am
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 8:59am | IP Logged | 5
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John Byrne wrote:
There are really good artists, and there are really good comicbook artists, and often they are not the same thing. . |
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Where do you think Alex Ross lies on that spectrum ?
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Jacob P Secrest Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4068
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 9:48am | IP Logged | 6
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I was introduced to comics by all the cartoons that were out when I was a
kid.
Years later I actually bought a comic.
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Robert Cosgrove Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1710
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 10:58am | IP Logged | 7
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[QUOTE=John Mietus]That Joe Kubert Hawkman cover really stands out in that group, doesn't it?
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I love Kubert, and it's a nice cover, but I don't think it's head and shoulders over the rest of them--there really isn't a bad one in the bunch, though the Batman is pretty standard stuff. In fact, if I were to pick a favorite, the nod would go to the Gil Kane Atom cover, which I think is one of the great covers of the silver age.
Because I'm about the same age as JB, we share some of these firsts--i.e., the Flash, B&B JLA, Hawkman, and Metalmen. He beat me on Green Lantern, which I didn't find until his final tryout appearance with the Invisible Destroyer on the cover.
The Kubert cover raises another point for me though, which is that I always thought that the mask without wings was the best--the most birdlike, Hawklike. I understand the wings as a decorative element, but I still prefer the character as Kubert originally (re)designed him. This book was really my introduction to Kubert, as I wasn't a fan of war material at the time--his rich blacks and versatile textures were a revelation to me. As quite a young kid I had seen and liked the Viking Prince, but had little awareness of artists at that point.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 11:04am | IP Logged | 8
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There are really good artists, and there are really good comicbook artists, and often they are not the same thing.++++ Where do you think Alex Ross lies on that spectrum? ***** Much the same position as Kirby. On a purely technical level Ross' work is fairly pedestrian (tho vastly better than anything I could do), but as The-Guy-Who-Paints-Superheroes, clearly he is far above most others in the field.
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Jon Godson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 11:10am | IP Logged | 9
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That Joe Kubert Hawkman cover really stands out in that group, doesn't
it?
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I think that Kubert peaked artistically with Hawkman. The character looks
great, especially without the side wings on his helmet. I always thought
that, with his actual wings, the helmet wings made the character look too
busy. Without them he looks more like, well, a HAWK.
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Andrew Kneath Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 1:42pm | IP Logged | 10
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I first encountered Superheroes via The Superman/Superboy cartoons (by Filmation I believe) in the early 70's and Batman and Robin believe it or not as guest stars in Scooby Doo.
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Ian Evans Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 September 2004 Posts: 2433
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 2:08pm | IP Logged | 11
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Wow really impressed that you guys can remember where and when...for me it must have been the Batman show I think since I had a Batman costume and rubber ring (!) when I was three or so in 1967/8 ...used to read my friend's comics ( because his parents had a car and so could go to the market in the nearby town regularly) - these were DC so my earliest memories are Batman and things like The Justice League (which I loved!) ...but in 1972 (I think) Marvel began to reprint Fantastic Four, Spider-man and the Hulk in The mighty World of Marvel and my life was changed...the Spider-man cartoon had a great deal to do with it and I used to love Mighty Mouse because it was an animated character with super powers, which was rre indeed back then in the UK...although I do have vague memories of a Fantastic Four animated series from about the same time....I also loved Marine Boy as a kind of bargain basement Namor, and anything in which the characters had super powers...like The Champions, a British show that has vanished without trace...
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: Brazil Posts: 12912
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Posted: 14 May 2005 at 2:28pm | IP Logged | 12
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A few clues to a lifetime of mad love:
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