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Jason K Fulton
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Note - not a thread to bash particular creators, lets keep it clean!
What's the secret alchemy to getting the Fantastic Four "right"? And why does it happen so infrequently?
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Joe Smith
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science.
I enjoyed Dan Slott run, but it was pretty street level, and not a ton of
science. The North run that we are experiencing right now has a great mix
of family/science/stakes and I am really digging it.
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John Byrne
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One of the previous higher ups said the Fantastic Four were “Marvel’s original dysfunctional family.”How wrong can they get?!
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Jason K Fulton
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| Posted: 27 April 2024 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | 4
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I'm enjoying the North run as well, Joe. The science aspect is there, and the family aspect is there, and the characters voices seem correct to me (especially Sue). He seems to have a great handle on Doom as well.
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Craig Earl
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The family dynamic + deep exploration makes the FF work for me.
I don't have any experience of the current run or Slott's stuff (I really disliked Slott's Spider-Man though).
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Jason K Fulton
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| Posted: 27 April 2024 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | 6
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I bounced off of Slott's run, but that's OK. That happens more often than not when it comes to my enjoyment of the FF.
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Rebecca Jansen
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Adventures of all sorts; four characters you come to know and believe in going places and doing things. The Himalayas, Jungles, the Negative Zone, Macro and Micro Space, Time itself... hmm, Jonny Quest on steroids? :^)
I saw some modern Alex Ross version and I really liked the logo they had on the cover... the lettering was kind of stretched out and just that lettering grabbed my interest and made the comic look exciting and adventurous.
Yes, actual science involved seems a fantastic idea... the French Yoko Tsuno by Roger Leloup has a variety of sciences integrated in the various stories. Meeting new aliens can lead to all sorts of interesting questions and some real answers based on what we do know now.
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Doug Centers
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I like them to stay within their own bubble universe. Keeping the expanded Marveldom away as much as possible.
Negative Zone adventures are some of my favorites.
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Mark Haslett
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For me, it's all about Reed. His intelligence has to be portrayed in an engaging way. I need to understand that he's facing something fascinating and I need to see what puzzles him.
So, in my mind, "Great FF" gives us Reed, up against something he understands only 75%. He brings the team along to discover the other 25% -- with the stakes so high that failure is unimaginable.
Then they appear to fail... and yet, in the unique way that he has, Reed inspires the team to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
Give me that, I'll buy it every time.
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Robert Bradley
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The family dynamic is important of course, but they should also be the hab of the "Marvel Universe." Reed should be the one others go to with a scientific mystery. The science should be a mix of real science, scientific theory and "comic book science" (yes, we need an unstable molecules, the Ultimate Nullifier, the Fantasticar and a Negative Zone). It needs fresh ideas and characters like the Silver Surfer and Galactus, the Black Panther, Doctor Doom, the Watcher, the Skrulls, the Kree, Him, the Inhumans, etc.
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William Costello
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Ryan North's current run on the FF is pretty good.
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Michael Penn
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I agree with what many have posted in general about the ideal FF run: (functional!) family and science. The FF began their adventure in outer space and they have had some of their best stories told on a cosmic level in beautiful contrast to their intimate familial relations.
(Tangent: I suppose Chris Claremont's X-Men was a bizarre version of the FF, a dysfunctional family having adventures in space or in magic realms or... whatever!)
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