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Bill Wiist
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Sorry if this has already been covered elsewhere, but
it looks like DC is handing over the creative reigns of
their universe mostly to Grant Morrison.

Not sure if I'm completely comfortable with that idea!

However, it got me dreaming of what it would be like
if JB were given similar powers at Marvel. I know, I
know. I'm dreaming. Let me dream.

Here's the link:

Grant Morrison's in charge of what?
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Well, he is making me follow and read characters I barely even knew before in SEVEN SOLIDERS.  Zatanna and Guardian especially.
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So long as DC keeps JB on their team, I'm happy. It would be a shame though if they used less and less of his writing talents.
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I'm more comfortable with Grant Morrison reigning over the DCU than the Bendis reign over at M****. Morrison's slice of the DCU so far is self contained and not brushing against the Identity Crisis whereas the House of M is to be foot-printed on all M**** books. It seems that DC's mode is both generous and conservative to GM and the fans. It allows GM to have creative control of characters and stories and it welcomes fans to explore the characters and stories. The H of M way is such a sledgehammer approach that it robs other creators of stories (either by restricting what they can write lest in encroach on BMB's territory or invalidates the stories/arcs of current writers) see Joss Whedon's comments in June's issue of Wizard.

I have bought BMB books for years but I've disappointed by his recent output in Daredevil and Powers ( the last issue maybe the deal breaker) most likely caused by his expansion into the the M**** universe. 

 



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Looks like he's joining Geoff Johns on helping shepard the DCU to the bright future! I'd rather it just be Johns if Morrison is the only other candidate.
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Grant Morrison leaves me cold.  Hopefully he won't ruin any character I care about.
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Ugh.

He even compares himself to Julius Schwartz. Whatever.

Now, if only he understood superheroes.
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 Rey Flores wrote:

 The H of M way is such a sledgehammer approach that it robs other creators of stories (either by restricting what they can write lest in encroach on BMB's territory or invalidates the stories/arcs of current writers) see Joss Whedon's comments in June's issue of Wizard.

To be fair-Bendis has said it was others ideas that expanded upon House of M-they saw possibilites for what they wanted to tell.  He said he didn't want a Secret Wars II situation where, as a kid, he could tell that the writers had the event forced upon them, and you got a bunch of lackluster stories.

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Am I crazy that I think editors should have these powers instead of writers? I have nothing but respect for Geoff Johns, but this whole thing is making me a little queasy. I am currently enjoying DC books for the first time in over a decade, and I fear that they are going to scare me away from the hobby. I'm not looking forward to the "One Year Later" gimmick, for example. I don't want the Teen Titans to age a year overnight. 
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Don't underestimate Morrison's handling of conventional superheroes. This
is a guy who has said the Weisinger era is his favorite Superman and even
had Wally West invoke a Flash Fact in JLA.
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 Eric Kleefeld wrote:
Don't underestimate Morrison's handling of conventional superheroes. This is a guy who has said the Weisinger era is his favorite Superman and even had Wally West invoke a Flash Fact in JLA.

The problem for me isn't his love for the era; it's his almost total inability to write like said era.
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I think he's done good job at DC.  His X-men was interesting but ultimatey not my cup of tea, since I want less mutants not more.  Rumors abound that after House of M, i may get my wish.  Wonder what changes in the status quo House of M is going to commence.

Personally, I think it is a bad idea to rely too heavily on a few writers, whether it is Bendis and Millar at Marvel or Johns and Morrison at DC.  But that is just my opinion after all.

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 Rob Hewitt wrote:
I think he's done good job at DC.

His Adam Strange story for the Schwartz Mystery In Space tribute was for me unreadable and the first issue of his JLA Classified arc put me to sleep.  You're welcome to him.  Just keep him away from any character I like.
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I've been buying the Seven Soldiers stuff but as a whole it is leaving me uninterested in seeing how it all finishes. I am enjoying the Gaurdian title. Morrison does strike me as a guy with lots of ideas, if he hands these ideas off to other creators maybe they will make more sense of his more abstract ideas.

 



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Morrison's making real fun use of inter-title continuity in his Seven Soldiers stuff so I'm intrigued by this.

As someone who couldn't get into the Invisibles at all, I've been pleasantly surprised at how straight forward and enjoyable his current stuff has been - WE3 in particular stands out as probably the best mini-series I've read in yonks.
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I don't think this portrayal is entirely accurate.  Everything I've read indicates that they are using Geoff Johns and Grant Morrison in an advisory capacity to provide some company-wide story cohesion for Infinite Crisis and it's aftermath.  I don't see anything wrong with that and there is nothing indicating that they are going to be running the show after that.  It's this effort to keep some cohesion that separates DC from Marvel these days.
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 James C. Taylor wrote:
His Adam Strange story for the Schwartz
Mystery In Space tribute was for me unreadable and the first issue of his
JLA Classified arc put me to sleep.† You're welcome to him.† Just keep him
away from any character I like.


Hear hear. He may like superheroes, but I've yet to be entertained by his
attempts to write them.
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as someone said before, he my Love superheroes, but he doesn't respect them.  I think i would much prefer someone who didn't like superheroes but was a professional who respected the work, and characters, and past creators -  Johns and Morrison seem to be complete opposites, a traditionalist and someone who has never gotten a characterization right in his life.  I've hoped all along that Seven Soldiers was out of continuity, now they pull this . . . ::sigh::
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 John Mietus wrote:
Ugh.

He even compares himself to Julius Schwartz. Whatever.

Now, if only he understood superheroes.

He said he's doing  the sort of  thing Julie did. Which is true. Whether he's as succesful as Julie remains to be seen.

Mike

 

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If he sticks to just finding those hidden nuggets, I don't have a problem with what he is doing, and more power to him.  I can't say I really like any of the 7 Soldiers titles, but I'm willing to wait and see.
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From the article:

"Both DiDio and Morrison stressed that the writer isnít pulling books or concepts out from under creators and handing them back a radically altered concept that they have to shoehorn into their existing plans, rather, Morrison is looking through DCís catalog of characters and concepts that havenít seen the light of day for a while, and ďre-imaginingĒ them for a modern audience. Rather than working with the "known" of the DCU, Morrison is looking to bring back the unknown to today's fans, or at the very least, the largely forgotten and lost to time."

Whew. I was worried there for a minute.

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I think it'll be fine, M***** however is becoming unreadable, I don't recognize any of the characters anymore, they all slid into another dimension and were replaced by evil doppelgangers.
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I can solve all of M*****s problems if they give me total power...ya see, Franklin Richards, wait, the Beyonder, no, the Scarlet Witch, ah, what the heck, just flush the whole thing down the toilet and start over.
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I would suggest any comics fan, hell, any fan of a great
story, to pick up the We3 TPB.

I fell hard for all 3 of those characters. 

I took a chance on a writer I usually do not enjoy,
and was happily surprised. 

I still don't enjoy his super stuff, tho.
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WE3 really was something else - normally that kind of stuff, which plays so blatently at pulling the old heart strings, wouldn't work for me but it was the business.  Is gud!
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