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John Byrne
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | 1
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characters like this and sasquatch seem a pleasure to ink with a brush. I cant imagine using a nib ar pen. *** Depends on the inker -- or the inker's mood. I bounce back and forth between pen and brush, image to image, when dealing with fur. For instance, on this one I inked all the faces and hands (and Kurt's foot) with the fine point PITT pen, and just for the heck of it did some of Wendigo's fur with that pen, too. On the other hand, Terry Austin uses almost exclusively a nib pen, whether he's inking flesh, cloth, bark, grass, fur, you name it. (He told me that he tried a brush once and just could not get it to work.) Then there is Walt Simonson, who usually used a pen, but when he picks up a brush he somehow manages to produce almost exactly the same line! The key in comicbook inking, of course, is to worry only about what the printed page is going to look like, not what the original will look like, nor what tool is used to produce the effects. (This is one of the the things I like about doing commission pieces. I have to think differently, since there is, technically, no "printed page".)
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John Byrne
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 6:06pm | IP Logged | 2
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I love when you draw Wolverine's mask like this.
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Looking back over the commission pieces, I find it interesting on a personal level to note that Wolverine's mask has continued to evolve. It's a little bit different each time I draw it. The "wings", for instance, are wider and longer now than when I used to draw him in UNCANNY.
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Carmen Bernardo Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 6:19pm | IP Logged | 3
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(Okay, this was basically the same message as below. Flaming dial-up connection...)
Edited by Carmen Bernardo on 29 April 2007 at 6:29pm
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Carmen Bernardo Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | 4
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I'm quite impressed with this little glimpse of how JB lays out his pencils before building everything up and inking it in. It reminds me of a TV special I saw some 20-odd years ago which showed Jack Kirby sketching a Superman pose (starting with the figure's outline and filling that in with the details), but more like John Buscema's methods as outlined in How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way (starting with the shapes in light pencil lines then "fleshing in" with heavier lines). This is also what Bob McLeod pointed out about how they did things in those days in one of his articles in Rough Stuff magazine.
The more I think about it, the more I think that none of this is really outdated, unless they can come up with a computer program which perfectly mimicks the effects of a pencil or ink pen touching paper (and not the squiggly pixelated lines, either).
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David Ferguson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | 5
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I don't know what it is about your latest commissions but they are REALLY hitting the mark for me. I think it might the group and action aspects. I'd sum it up as "if this was a cover, I'd buy the comic to read the story"
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John Angelo Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | 6
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The key in comicbook inking, of course, is to worry only about what the printed page is going to look like, not what the original will look like, nor what tool is used to produce the effects. (This is one of the the things I like about doing commission pieces. I have to think differently, since there is, technically, no "printed page".)
Very interesting.
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Michael Everall Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 7:32pm | IP Logged | 7
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What a beaut!
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Derek Muthart Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 7:33pm | IP Logged | 8
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Kick Ass!
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Marcel Chenier Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | 9
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very nice
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Michael Connell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | 10
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More Wendigoodness!
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Jesus Garcia Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 10:11pm | IP Logged | 11
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It looks like an action photo of a superhero battle ... crisp with dynamic tension which seems to almost leap off the page.
Interesting to compare it with the cover it was based on. No actions lines. Less contrast between black and white areas. Not much white space yet no over-saturation of background elements either. Very well-balanced piece.
Interesting also is the fact that JB chose to show the baby's face this time around -- it heightens the sense of jeopardy IMHO.
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![](uploads/PaulGreer/2007-04-29_223234_wborat.jpg)
Very nice!
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