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Robert Tilelli Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 8:06am | IP Logged | 1
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I love Alpha Flight. JB's issues were classic. But IMO after he left everything has been garbage. Why is this? JB gave these characters enogh development that a writer should be able to tell good stories. I mean after Stan Lee and Kirby left the Avengers and FF some really great stories were told. Why not Alpha Flight? Any thoeries?
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 8:24am | IP Logged | 2
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Maybe the Alphans are too complicated for others to nail down right.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 8:41am | IP Logged | 3
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Lack of understanding of the characters and dynamic of the team, I think.
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 8:43am | IP Logged | 4
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Because it's all about them. Leaving their mark on the characters, changing their looks, attitude, and character to fit who other people think they should be, not who they were created to be. Easier to make the character into who you want them to be than write them around who they should be.
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 8:53am | IP Logged | 5
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...maybe Alpha Flight was just a great team meant to fight the X-Men and nothing else...?
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Ryan Maxwell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 8:56am | IP Logged | 6
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From what I've read online (little) and seen in the books (even less), most writers just threw obstacles in their path that usually led to death, resurrection or a complete change of the characters mentally and/or physically. There was no status quo, no putting the toys back where they found them by the time the writers left.
Of course, all of Marvel is like that now...
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I'd like to see what Alan Davis would do if he were allowed to pick up where JB ended...
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Ryan Maxwell Byrne Robotics Member
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And yes, depressing topic for me. I love the FF and Avengers and, even with line-up changes, feel like I can read just about any issue from the first 25 years of those titles and know that everything will be alright and more or less back to normal by the end of the storyline. Not so in Canada.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 9:00am | IP Logged | 9
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QUOTE:
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That would certainly be interesting, but the creative team I'd go with first, short of JB himself, would be Roger Stern and Kerry Gammill.
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 16 July 2008 at 9:00am
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 9:01am | IP Logged | 10
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For one thing, they're a team that's not a team. You basically get to see what happens in their lives as they intersect occassionally and stand together (briefly). But for the most part, ALPHA FLIGHT was unique in that it was essentially about the characters and their personal endeavors and demons, while not beating the reader over the head with overwrought melodrama.
The way to write AF is to write about the characters as if they aren't in a team at all.
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 9:02am | IP Logged | 11
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Puck became a dwarf because of an evil spell.
The twins are really elves.
Who could resist these great ideas?
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Robert Tilelli Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 July 2008 at 9:07am | IP Logged | 12
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The only writer I think who "got" Alpha Flight was Frank Tieri during his wolverine run. Those few issues were great and reminded me of JB's run.
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