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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 03 June 2019 at 5:01pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Peter M. - thanks for catching my typo. It has been fixxed :).

As to the Kingpin being "all muscle" - first, it's not my impression; it was in the comics (maybe his first Spider-Man appearance...? Don't remember at this late date.) Second, no, he likely has SOME fat; it wasn't intended as a literal anatomical description. But there's a reason for is being so damned large.

Ron G. - I don't suspect that the Big Two hire mediocre art as much as they hire the best artists they can find... and sometimes those artists, even as the best, are mediocre in comparison to the true best (e.g., our super talented host.) My standard is always the same... they can draw the fantastic, the bizarre, the mysterious, the stylized. Can they draw Clark and Lois walking down a city street? Do their fire hydrants and cars and mailmen look realistic? If not, then they are missing a degree of quality.
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and sometimes those artists, even as the best, are mediocre in comparison to the true best (e.g., our super talented host.) 
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No one likes a suck up.
I like JB's style too but I like other styles as well .
When I was a younger fan I thought Kirby,Infantino and Kane were mediocre to Byrne or Perez.
Boy was I wrong they just had different styles.
Again dont judge by one panel.


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Using Mr. Byrne as an example is hardly what I'd considered sucking up.

But obviously, you do. I could give you a very long list of artists who I think can draw a mailbox... but to what end? Suffice it to say, I think there are too many who CAN'T.
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I've enjoyed Sorrentino work, but that just doesn't read as "Kingpin" to me. 
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Using Mr. Byrne as an example is hardly what I'd considered sucking up.
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Read your qoute again its really sucking up



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I like it and his art reminds me of Jae Lee but I do miss the weighted line work of the 60's and 70's.
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Not mediocre, but not an artist whose work I would enjoy seeing on a regular basis either.
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Using Mr. Byrne as an example is hardly what I'd considered sucking up.

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This is what we see altogether too much of in the ennui-engorged fanboys who populate the internet. Positivity is dismissed as "sucking up"--tho one is left to wonder what is imagined can be achieved by such.

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and sometimes those artists, even as the best, are mediocre in comparison to the true best (e.g., our super talented host.) 
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Ah yes positivity saying all other artists suck in comparison to this fanboys obsession.
True best what is that?
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I'm a'gunnin' for that free lifetime membership to the JBF so I can get that cool little square on my posts!!!
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Kingpin is basically a sumo wrestler. That's more or less how he defeated the Red Skull when they fought during the time the Red Skull was in a cloned body of Captain America.


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We’ll imagine the Skull was still new in his Cap clone, so he wasn’t yet able to take full advantage of it.

Or, you know, poor writing.

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