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ron bailey Byrne Robotics Member

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I never said "only" nor did I insist. But in this never-ending culture war brouhaha, what's more low hanging fruit in getting a cheap rise out of people than combining the vulnerable impressionability of children on the one hand and the outward theatricality of drag in the other? It's tailor made to disingenuously get both sides dander up, and for what? This very specific singular thing that goes on how often and in how many communities? Plenty more way ahead in line of this one.
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Dave B Stewart Byrne Robotics Member

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Don't forget that someone found a pic of the TN Gov in a dress from high school!
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John Byrne
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Never tried full drag, but in my early teens my mother owned some large clip on earrings I used to like to wear. They seemed very sci-fi for some reason.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member

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We had a “dress opposite” day during homecoming week in high school. I wore a skirt. One of those tight denim ones that went just below the knee. I found it difficult to walk and sit down comfortably but I did enjoy the breeziness. I think I would be down for kilt-wearing.
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John Wickett Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 06 March 2023 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | 5
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I don't think that story time, or having events near a school are a problem.
Check out this video: https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/video-of-dra g-queen-gyrating-next-to-child-sparks-backlash/
As indicated in the story, this event was planned for adults, and promotional materials warned people about explicit content. However, when the video was shown on Fox News and in other places, it was mischaracterized as having been promoted as an all ages event, with numerous elementary school aged children being present.
So bad reporting is what sparked the outrage.
I think the performance depicted in the video would be inappropriate for kids, regardless of whether the dancer was a drag queen or a straight biological woman. I would support legislation that prevents schools from presenting explicit material of this nature to young children, and I think that's all most people want. What others choose to expose their children to over the weekend is none of my business if the kids aren't being abused.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 06 March 2023 at 10:08pm | IP Logged | 6
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But in this never-ending culture war brouhaha, what's more low hanging fruit in getting a cheap rise out of people than combining the vulnerable impressionability of children on the one hand and the outward theatricality of drag in the other?
It's tailor made to disingenuously get both sides dander up, and for what? This very specific singular thing that goes on how often and in how many communities? Plenty more way ahead in line of this one.
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It's tailor made to be affirming and inclusive to queer families and provide opportunities for LGBTQ culture to straight families. That you want to center it around the outrage of bigots is as problematic as the bigots themselves. I have librarian friends who have been doxxed and threatened over having DQSH at their libraries. They just want to put on a program that many in their community want. None of them want attention from bigoted assholes.
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ron bailey Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 06 March 2023 at 10:15pm | IP Logged | 7
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You want to champion it by accusing me of demonizing it. I'm doing neither.
"That you want to center it around the outrage of bigots is as problematic as the bigots themselves." Is this something you truly believe or was it just seductive to write? I was saying it was nothing to get outraged about one way or another,
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

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| Posted: 06 March 2023 at 10:32pm | IP Logged | 8
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Zuh?
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It's tailor made to disingenuously get both sides dander up, and for what? |
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ron bailey Byrne Robotics Member

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Sigh ... I was saying it SHOULD BE nothing to get outraged about one way or another.
Now can you take your faux outrage elsewhere, please?
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

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"deliberately provocative to poke the bear"
"low hanging fruit in getting a cheap rise"
"disingenuously"
You are saying it should be nothing to get outraged about, while repeatedly saying that it exists to piss people off. Which is just a different kind of outrage on your part.
If you think it is nothing to get outraged about, just say that? But you keep using words that suggest something is wrong with it, then act offended when people are confused about your words.
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You like to accuse people of being disingenuous. Which goes back to the centering thing.
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ron bailey Byrne Robotics Member

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It's not contradictory to acknowledge that something shouldn't be a big deal even though some people make it out to be.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

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It's not contradictory to acknowledge that something shouldn't be a big deal even though some people make it out to be.
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Sure. But what you wrote comes across as your personal assessment rather than what other people think, hence the confusion.
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