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Trevor Smith
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Posted: 28 August 2025 at 7:21pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

"Why hasn’t he been nabbed by ICE?"

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"Why hasn’t he been nabbed by ICE?"
Powers allow him to hide. If only we (the USA) still valued decency.
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I can’t believe I’ve thought his name was John Johns this whole time. Yikes.  Thanks, Wallace!
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I pronounced his Martian name “John Johns” for years, despite his human identity being John Jones.
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Yep, I still hear "Johns" in my head. My brain refuses to
entertain anything else.
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This thread sent me looking at old JLA covers. That was where I mostly read about J’Onn.

Surprised to see how many of those images show the heroes basically just standing there!

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I did a personal study of comic book covers for fun a few years ago.  It's amazing how different Marvel and DC covers were!  The things that kept popping up for DC were different than Marvel's typical tropes.

Recurring classic DC cover themes--
Hero fighting a doppelganger
Hero fighting his alter ego
Hero talking to the reader
Earth in danger
Gorillas
Empty uniforms
Hero arrested or on trial
Hero carrying a dead person (usually another hero)
Falling to your death
Hero in a cage or jail cell
Weddings
Patriotic
Posters or wanted posters
Hero bursting through the cover (though Howard the Duck famously did that one too) or "Introducing!"
Hero aged or babyfied
Hero is a murderer!
Hero is dead
Hero body altered or skeletonized
Split cover (with hero often caught between two worlds)
Rollercoasters!

Marvel's recurring cover themes--
Two heroes fighting
The "Album Cover" (heroes standing dramatically)
The "Movie Poster" (Think Steranko or Gulacy)
Hero defeated!
Hero not defeated yet!
Artsy!  (Think of some Bill Sienkiewicz single figure covers)
Heroes running or flying towards us
Dozens of heroes falling, fighting, advancing, etc. (think Art Adams or George Perez--though he certainly continued this at DC)
Montages--series overview, issue overview, or possibly both
Hero standing there in various degrees of "Here I am." or "Here I am!!!"
Hero seen from behind
Giant figure or face looming above symbolically over the city or the heroes (Though Neal Adams did a fantastic Ra's Al Ghul looming over Batman and dead Robin for that Treasury Edition!)
Extreme close-up of face or two fighting faces
Hero or heroes quitting
Did the hero/es kill the villain/s?!?
Left team vs. right team!

If I described things well enough, you probably pictured a number of examples in your head!  It's very interesting to me to see the different "How to grab the reader" philosophies of the two different companies over decades of covers.
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I pronounced his Martian name “John Johns” for years, despite his human identity being John Jones.

John Johns still makes too much sense to me for me to let it go!


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I actually always took the J'Onn J'Onzz name as being something humans could pronounce rather than being his actual Martian name. E.G. his name would actually be a sequence of sounds that don't exist in Earth languages, and hence he picked the closest translation equivalent.  


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I actually always took the J'Onn J'Onzz name as being something humans could pronounce rather than being his actual Martian name.

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Always?

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Posted: 02 September 2025 at 3:32pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Eric Jansen, I love that list!

I think there are several major Marvel tropes left to add -

Who Is The New Mystery Character? (which may be just a disguise)
Newspaper Headline incorporated (Wood’s DD, Kirby)
Villain Steals Hero’s powers“
You thought we’d never do it” Identity Revealed
At Last/Once Again: The Match-up (Hulk/Thing, Thor/Hercules)
The Cosmic Mindblower has arrived (Galactus, Ego, High Evolutionary, Etc.)

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'Literary reference in a title' was another Marvel trope(for instance, 'Death Be Not Proud', AVENGERS # 56).
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