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Michael Penn
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Posted: 29 July 2026 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Half a G, or whatever, for this rip-off of your work. Argh!

Traced shmaced. Unauthorized? Unacceptable.
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Darren Taylor
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Posted: 29 July 2026 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

It has to be intention, right? Maybe? 

This guy has inked over stats (or whatever). Then presented it as an original piece of art by JB and him.

There are plenty of times that has been done in comics, where original pencils were lost or delayed but copies were available to be light-boxed over. 

So it feels like the act is the same. 

The [professional] artist would have intended the [assigned] work to be inked as part of the professional production chain.

So in both cases [professional and ametuer], the inks couldn't exist without the original artist, but in both cases there is no physical attachment to the inked piece by the penciller.

So I think I've convinced myself that in both cases, the original artwork can not include the original artist as involved in the end art. To suggest so is duplicitous. 

...Maybe? 

This is why as much as I love the traditional media, I do all my inks over JB's work digitally. Can't sell nuffin! -LOL.
 
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Posted: 29 July 2026 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

My main concern is that someone is going to buy this piece thinking they are getting my work, when they’re not.
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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 30 July 2026 at 7:38am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

100 people could do the exact same thing--ink onto new board over printed out stats.  And the thing they would all have in common is that JB never touched any of them.

Even if an inker with the thickest line possible obliterated every little pencil (or eraser) mark on the original page, at least the buyer would still be getting something JB (or any other penciler in a similar situation) had touched, had worked on, had on his drawing table, etc.  That would still be worth something.

This guy could sell the page for whatever his own inks are worth, perhaps up to $200 for a full day's work.  ("Here's what my inks look like over John Byrne's reproduced pencils.")  But the $500 price is misleading, as is the "about" info.


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Steve Coates
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Posted: 30 July 2026 at 12:16pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

The seller is a scammer, mis-representing the origins and process used to produce the object.

An informed buyer (someone like us) would know what it is and not purchase it.

A un-informed yet, thinking buyer would do research and would come to understand the value of the object.

A naive buyer might purchase the object and later learn it's true value.

A foolish buyer will purchase the object and never know better.

The only type to offer aid to is the naive buyer, who might learn before purchasing, but most certainly after and become a thinking buyer or become another foolish buyer.

A foolish buyer cannot be helped.
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