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Posted: 17 August 2026 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Came upon a TikTok thread (not something that I normally follow) discussing the Claremont/Byrne run on UNCANNY and declaring it to be “old fashioned”.

A fifty year old series.

Do people even understand the words they use?

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Posted: 17 August 2026 at 1:26pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

You mean in 1988, you didn't dismiss Action Comics #1 as old fashioned?

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Posted: 17 August 2026 at 2:02pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Looking up on the internet about this (and now I need a shower), it seems the majority focus of this "old fashioned" comment is directed at Chris Claremont's dialogue and "dense" writing overall.
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Posted: 17 August 2026 at 2:28pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Yes—neither of which were considered “old fashioned” at the time.

“Old fashioned” is not even a term that can or should be used to describe something existing in the Past—unless what’s being described is somehow deliberately old fashioned in context. Say, someone in the 12th Century choosing to wear clothing designed to look like the 5th.

But what CC wrote—and by extension what I drew—was not “old fashioned” in the Seventies and Eighties. It was simply how things were done.

(If ELSEWHEN was deemed “old fashioned” I would not be inclined to quibble. More likely take it as a compliment— tho probably unintentional.)

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Posted: 17 August 2026 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Relatedly, "dated/outdated" can be similarly used in a vague, lazy, and dismissive (etc.) manner. Can't take the past for what it was? Move on.
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Posted: 17 August 2026 at 2:58pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

JB - By the time X-Men got to the death of Jean Grey, you are Chris had brought  back all the original 5 X-Men...except Iceman.  Was there a particular reason he was not brought back to the lineup?
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Posted: 17 August 2026 at 3:11pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Not really a question this time, more just wanted to share something. Went through #137 with my son a while back, the Phoenix death sequence, and he went completely silent for a solid minute after the last page. Didn't say a word, just sat there staring at that final panel. That silence is still the best review I've ever gotten of anything I've shown him. Been thinking about how much of that is the pacing into it, the choice of what to show full-page versus what to hold back. Anyway, credit where it's due.
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