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Scott Gray
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| Posted: 10 November 2026 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | 1
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John Byrne wrote: Under a parliamentary system, the Prime Minister is the head of the party that gets the most votes. There is no absurdity by which the candidate who got LESS votes becomes leader because of an antiquated system intended to “equalize” votes.
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That can certainly happen under a first-past-the-post parliamentary system. In New Zealand's 1978 and 1981 general elections, the National party won despite getting fewer votes than the Labour party. It set New Zealand on a course to replace FPTP with a Proportional Representation system.
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James Johnson
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| Posted: 11 November 2026 at 11:47pm | IP Logged | 2
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To paraphrase Nina Simone
GODDAMN, MISSISSIPPI!!!!!!!
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 12 November 2026 at 2:25am | IP Logged | 3
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YES!!!
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 12 November 2026 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | 4
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Now, if the media could just get on board with the Dems, things could start looking up... LINK
Tuesday's vote was NOT a vote to impeach Pete Hegseth.
It was a procedural vote on whether to REFER the articles of impeachment to the Judiciary Committee.
A YES vote meant sending the articles to committee rather than proceeding immediately with impeachment.
A NO vote meant rejecting that procedural maneuver so the impeachment effort could potentially move forward.
Sure, I understand why some ppl are upset that several Dems got stuck in traffic and missed the vote. The vote was reportedly open for approximately 23 minutes, and some members arrived after it closed.
But even if those Dems had made it and defeated the referral motion, that STILL would not have meant Pete Hegseth was impeached.
The House would have needed to vote on the actual articles.
The media should discuss accountability without misrepresenting what happened. (Smarter for Dems to just wait till the new Congress is sworn in.)
-C!
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Brian Hughes
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| Posted: 12 November 2026 at 4:50pm | IP Logged | 5
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Charles, it was Republican Congressman Thomas Massie out of Kentucky that brought this up, not the Dems. It is probably his last major act in office as he is retiring after this term ends.
The Dems would probably wait until the new Senate comes to sesion before taking any impeachment action.
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Peter Hicks
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| Posted: 12 November 2026 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | 6
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Charles - I think the American people can expect their Representatives to be in The House doing their jobs when The House is in session. Regardless of where this goes procedure wise, it was an unforced error that makes Hakeem Jeffries look bad. (That may be a good thing in the overall picture of potentially replacing him).
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 12 November 2026 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | 7
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It’s not just the President who’s a lame duck. The whole government is frozen until the new members are sworn in.
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Michael Penn
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| Posted: 12 November 2026 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | 8
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As long as Trump's President -- rather, as long as a Republican is -- even the new Democratic Congress will be rather lamed as well. The veto...
What can the Dems do immediately? Block Trump's appointments, launch investigations, issue subpoenas, impeachment, etc. Mostly, exert the power of the purse. The Dems can strip funding for specific White House programs, border enforcement operations, and military deployments out of annual appropriations bills, and more. Trump cannot spend money Congress has not appropriated, nor can he veto a spending cut that isn't in the bill.
Defund Trump.
So, do it -- and don't fuck it up.
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 12 November 2026 at 6:56pm | IP Logged | 9
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It’s not just the President who’s a lame duck. The whole government is frozen until the new members are sworn in.Agreed... and I really just wanted to emphasize, as I said, "The media should discuss accountability without misrepresenting what happened."
The media is already trying to blame Dems for things BEFORE they even take control in January. Very misleading to the public.
-C!
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Dave Kopperman
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| Posted: 12 November 2026 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | 10
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@Charles: That's the usual playbook. The Tea Party started to gel in late November 2008, ostensibly in response to Obama's policies* ('Taxed Enough Already'), so while I never dug into the history of it, I'm fairly certain the strategy was pre-planned (as is the current DSA movement).
@JB: the current Senate will be trying to appoint as many Federal Judges as they can during the lame duck period, which is sort of leaving a flaming bag of dogshit on someone's porch and then ringing and ditching.
*= race, of course.
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