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Todd Douglas
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 QUOTE:
think you can ditch this one, since the current version of The Legion features a Colossal Boy who is a native of a planet of giants

As the character would say....

"That's Micro-Lad!"

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Steve Gumm
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Nova (FF)

Ego the living planet (FF)

Doomsday+1 characters

Proteus (X-Men)

Black Queen (X-Men)

The Great Beasts (Alpha Flight)

Dark Phoenix (X-Men)

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Flavio Sapha
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Ego is from Lee/Kirby, man.
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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Posted: 29 November 2005 at 5:01pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Silver Swan

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Methinks you mean Silver Banshee.
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Ooops...Mr. Byrne, You are right. Silver Swan appeared in Wonder Woman. I always confuse them, 'cause Silver Banshee's real name is "Shioban".
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Steve Gumm
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Posted: 29 November 2005 at 5:02pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Cool. Just throwing 'em to the ceiling and seeing what sticks.

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Thanos Kollias
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I can't really understand the difference between creator and co-creator. It's as if Jack Kirby didn't create the FF or Stan Lee didn't create Spider-Man. Co-creators are two unseperable parts of the same thing.

And, yes, Dazzler may have been handed down by the editors (if you believe wikipedia, which lists Kirby and Lee as Avalanche's creators....) or Romita may have designed Wolverine's costume but the writer and the artist did more than that. They put voice, emotion, action, movement and feeling to a designed figure. That's why they are the creators for me.

Of course, many people contributed to the evolution of, say, Wolverine. Claremont, Byrne, Cockrum, Windsor-Smith, Paul Smith, Hamma, Quesada, Andy Kubert, Adam Kubert. That doesn't change the fact that he first appeared in a Hulk story writen by Wein and drawn by Trimpe. That's why these two are the creators and not anybody else.

Anyway, I am very serious about doing the absolute, complete take no prisoners list of JB's creations, even though there is the problem of the time difference which will complicate synchronization, but I am confident we will overcome it. If any are willing to help and make smaller lists based on titles, every hand available is welcome.

I propose we include the real name, the alias (if any), the creators involved (other writer or artist involved) and if possible, first appearence. I think this may prove to be a fun collaboration and something every visitor will appreciate.



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Steve Gumm
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Please don't hesitate throwing a name or two in the ring. I'm not a comic book historian, so I know I'm going to miss a few (ie. Ego).  Let's just throw in some the characters we suspect JB created. If you throw a wrong one in someone will politely correct it and we keep the list moving forward and growing. As far a Creator, Co-Creator, Redesign, etc... I think we figure out classifications later after we compile a list.

Here's two I could be completely wrong on:

Captain Britain

Baron Blood

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Mike Norris
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Baron Blood is Roy Thomas and Frank Robbins.
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Andrew Kneath
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Posted: 29 November 2005 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Captain Britain was created by Chris Claremont/Herb Trimpe for a Marvel UK weekly of the same name. (JB drew his first American Appearance in MTU)
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Here's what has been compiled so far:

 

Alpha Flight Related

Aurora (Jeanne-Marie Beaubier)

Box (Roger Bochs)

Caliber

Deadly Ernest

Diamond Lil (Lillian Crawley)

FlashBack

Gilded Lily

The Great  Beasts

  Sasquatch (Walter Langowski)

  Tundra

  Tanaraq

  Somon the Artificer
  Tolomaq
  Kariooq
  Kolomaq
  Ranaq

Heather Hudson

Jerry Jaxon

Madison Jeffries

Marina

Nemesis

Northstar (Jean-Paul Beaubier)

Pink Pearl

Puck (Eugene Milton Judd)

Shaman (Michael Twoyoungmen

Smart Alec

Snowbird (Narya)

Tailsman

Talisman (Elizabeth Twoyoungmen))

The Master of the World

The Macromen

Vindicator/Guardian (James McDonald Hudson)

Wild Child

 

Avengers Related

Henry Peter Gyrich

 

Captain America Related
Bernie Rosenthal

Armadillo

 

Doom Patrol Related

Grunt (Henry Bucher)

Nudge (Kwon Mi-Sun)

Vortex

Family and Friends

Gary Kwon

Mr. Butcher

Mr. Kwon

Mrs. Butcher

Mrs. Kwon

Private Elihu Washburn - Ghost

Enemies

Barrage

Crucifier

Dr. Erik Verdalian

Dr. Rhonda Lorre

Gambol

Garret

Lord ? (the Vortex related enemy from #7-8)

Max Samson

Megalith

Morass

Snake

Toombala

Wormhole

 

Fantastic Four Related

Alden Maas

Aunt Petunia

Hate Monger III

Herbie II (could be Hubert)

Julie Angel

Karisma

Kristof von Doom

Luna- Crystal and Quicksilver's baby

Malice (Susan Storm's evil persona)

Nova (Frankie _____ )

Ralphie? Is that the name of "everyday Joe" in the Ego story? 

robot secretary at the Baxter Building

Spinnerette

Terminus

Terrax

The Roman/ alien guy in Africa- FF

 

The Great Lake Avengers

Mr. Immortal

Dinah-Soar

Big Bertha

Flatman

Doorman

 

Iron Fist Related

Bushmaster

Chaka, Golden Tigers- Iron Fist adversaries, used recently in Daredevil? Am I remembering that right?
Conal- Iron Fist friend
Harmony

The Hylthri- Iron Fist adversary, later in Namor Khumbala Bey- Iron Fist villain
Jeryn Hogarth- Iron Fist's lawyer
Miranda- Iron Fist friend (sister?)
Scimitar- Iron Fist villain
Steel Serpent- kinda, a new identity for Davos, Iron Fist arch-enemy

 

Iron Man Related

Jim Rhodes

 

Lab Rats Related

Team-members

   Alex

   Dana

   Gia

   Isaac

   Poe

   Sara

   Trilby

   Wu

Stuff

  Abigail Gooss

  Brennan

  Dorsey

  Dr. Morgan

  Meehan

  Mulligan (agent)

  Robert Quinlan

Misc

  Number Twelve

  Senator Warfield

 

DC's Legends Mini Series Related

Brimstone

Amanda Waller of "Suicide Squad

 

Legend Characters

Babe

Blond Bombshell

Caucus

Commie Smasher

Doc Danger

Golgotha

Hunk

La Belabet

Lennin Ghost

Miss Mirage

Radio Girl

The Torch of Liberty

Thermal

Tin Soldier

Umbra

 

The Lost Generation Related

Anya - Katyusha

Automn Sunshine

Axis

Black Fox (Dr. Robert Paine)

Blackjack

Captain Hip/Hipster (Fred MacRae)

Dr. Cassandra Locke

Firefall

Flatiron

Frank

Gadfly (T. Ruth MacRae)

Garrow - Howler

Howler

Jim Fitzpatrick

Khadijah

Liberty Girl

Major Mercury

Mako

Mary Carmody

Morph

Mr. Justice/(Kid Justice (Tim Carney)

Nightingale

Nocturne

Omega-20 - "Gene"

Oxbow

Pixie

Princess Zafina

Professor Carmody

Rapunzel

Rebound

Reflex

Riot-Act

Ronnie Positron

Squire

Templar (Ian Fitzwilliam Dare)

The Scythe

Typhoon

Velmax - Efigy

Vulcan

Walkabout

Winget-Commander Zuhn (Chimera)

Yankee Clipper ( Pat Carney)

 

Marvel Team-Up Related

Arcade

Miss Locke

Mr. Chambers

D'Spayre

 

Marvel Two In One Related

Entropy

Poundcakes

Titania

Screaming Mimi

Letha

 

The Next Men

 Bethany

 Danny

 David

 Gillian

 Jack

 Jasmine

 Nathan

Family

 Chrissy

 Mary Ellen Colby

Dollar Comics and friends

 Ben Horowitz

 Garrison Carter

 Lynda

 Ralph

 Sandy Tolliver

 Tom Tolliver

2112 connection

 Jane Bowman

 Sathanas

 Thomas Kirkland

Project

 Amanda Watson

 Doctor James Bremmer

 Dr. Axelrod

 Dr. Fleming Jorgenson

 Mrs. Watson

 President

 Senator Aldus Hilltop

 Sheriff Wyatt Coffey

 Tony Murchenson

 Willis Ducummen

OMEGA PROJECT

 Carolyn Kenniston

 Cornelius Van Damme

 Hercules

 Ignis

 Mark Ivey (MIV)

 MIV

 Trait

 Vulcan

Misc

 Donna Wojciechowski

 Father MIchael Benedict

 Walker Stone

 Control

Comic-book characters

 Action Maxx

 Blue Dahlia

 Brutus

 Doctor Trogg

 Fireball

 Mandriller

 She-Demon

 

 

She Hulk Related

Weezi

 

Superman Related

Amazing Grace

Bloodsport

Checkmate!

Dreadnaught

Frank Berkowitz (mayor of Metropolis)

Gretchen Kelly

Mag Pie

Maggie Sawyer

Rampage

Skyhook

Sleez

Supergirl (Matrix)

Sydney Happersen

 

Wonder Woman Related

Wonder Girl II (Cassie) and her Mother

 

X-Men Related

Amahl Farouk  -telepath

Amanda Sefton- Nightcrawler's Girl
Mariko- Wolverine's girl/ Sunfire's cousin

Black Queen

Carmen and ______  Kitty's parents

Dark Phoenix

Nanny- Magneto's robot servant

Proteus

Rachel Summers (Phoenix II/Marvel Girl II)

Sabretooth

Sprite  (Kitty Pryde)

Stevie Hunter

Brotherhood of Evil Mutants

  Avalanche (Dominic Petros, who is Greek!?!?!)

  Destiny (Irene Adler)

  Pyro (St. John Allerdyce

Helfire Club members

  Donald Pierce

  Harry Leland

  Jason Wyngarde (at least this persona was Byrne/Claremont, but feel free to neglect it)

  Sebastian Shaw

  Tessa, who I think appears unnamed in a panel, I could be wrong

  White Queen (Emma Frost)

 

X-Men Hidden Years Related

Ashley Martin

Avia

Deluge

Krueger

Teri Martin

The Promise:

  Craig

  Gene

  Gracie

  Lucy Robinson

  Mikey (Lucy's son)

  Simon

  Tobias Messenger

 

Doomsday+1 Related

Captain Boyd Ellis
Jill Malden
Ikei Yashida
Kuno
Dr. Yomorov


 

Headhunter

ROG2000

Rhodey

Sharon Selleck

Vampire from Tenth Circle

Dark Angel

 

 

Another one I just thought of is Boomerang.  Didn't he first appear in Iron Fist?

 



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Brian Talley
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Posted: 29 November 2005 at 9:59pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Boomerang first appeared in TALES TO ASTONISH #81

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Wayde Murray
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The side debate about creator/co-creator makes me think of Hollywood: who creates the character, the actor or the writer? "Both" is the only answer I can see, since neither can be separated from the creation without changing the creation into some other character.

In that sense, JB actually "created" more characters than Stan Lee, in that he was wholly and solely responsible for both their look and personality.
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