Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login
The John Byrne Forum
Byrne Robotics > The John Byrne Forum << Prev Page of 21 Next >>
Topic: If There was a Marvel… (Topic Closed Topic Closed) Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message
Gordon Somers
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 18 April 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 523
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | 1  

It wasn't Darren it was me BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

(Birthday gift from my wife - thank you very much)
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Paul Greer
Byrne Robotics Security
Avatar

Joined: 18 August 2004
Posts: 14191
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 12:55pm | IP Logged | 2  

Damn! It's a Scottish conspiricy against me.
Back to Top profile | search
 
Darren Taylor
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 22 April 2004
Location: Scotland
Posts: 6040
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:10pm | IP Logged | 3  

Hehehehehe, PAul did you see the unpublished page of 2112 that had Wolverine in it?

 

;-)

Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Gordon Somers
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 18 April 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 523
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:11pm | IP Logged | 4  

LOL!

Unfortunately, I have nowhere near your collection Mr Greer, but I may just have to track you down...
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Pedro Bouça
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 1465
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:14pm | IP Logged | 5  

Dr. Strange and Guardians of Galaxy would be cool. Nick Fury is too tied to continuity for JB to be able to do him without butting heads with many editors.

And Dan Slott's Defenders idea is brilliant! Most of the team's characters are baggage-free (including Strange) and the occasional Namor/Hulk/Silver Surfer appearances would allow us a chance to see JB doing those characters again!
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Matthew Linton
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 21 July 2007
Posts: 162
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:16pm | IP Logged | 6  

Union Jack could be interesting.  And his ties to WWII could allow for some Invaders appearances, as well.
Back to Top profile | search
 
John Bodin
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar
Purveyor of Rare Items

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 3911
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:20pm | IP Logged | 7  

 John Byrne wrote:
Point has been raised, if I went back to Marvel, what would I do, assuming something that I had not done before, and assuming an environment in which I could do what I felt should be done, and not be weighed down by the latest "fixes".

A few titles spring to mind…

Doctor Strange
Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD
The Invaders (WW2)
Guardians of the Galaxy
Black Panther (bouncing between NY and Wakanda)
Ka-Zar (in New York)
The Black Fox (a cheat, I know, but I have not done him in his own title)

Thoughts?

Taking a realistic approach to this prospect -- the following is not meant to be a "downer" at all.

I think that any one of these possible titles would most likely be a slow-selling title at best (compared to the "hot title of the month" or the current "big-3" sales leader-type comic), and that means that approaching any of them from an "ongoing monthly" perspective from the get-go would probably be a huge mistake.  Even with YOU associated with the title, any of these would most likely fall into the lower-tier sales bracket (think DC's "Manhunter" title, or Marvel's "Spider-Girl"), which would put the book(s) in constant danger of cancellation -- and after the inevitable drop in sales after the first issues(s), the low-ish sales would undoubtedly fuel the fan-boy cries of "Byrne's lost it!  Don't waste your time on this book!", which would ultimately be a death-knell for any of these books.  This is precisely the fate that befell the Doom Patrol and Blood of the Demon, IMO.

The best way to avoid this recurring theme with regards to your books, and the best way to rebuild your rep in general, is probably to avoid taking on second-tier or lesser-known characters and books as monthly assignments.  Any one of these properties approached as a limited series would most likely have a better chance at commercial success, and would most likely have a better chance of establishing the character(s) involved as something MORE than a second-tier or lesser-known character(s).

That said, I say do them ALL, and do them all as limited-run miniseries -- market them as such from the get-go, and market the HECK out of them, then go to town.

If a revolution does occur at Marvel, they should consider doing something like a "Showcase" book -- give the title to JB, let him do three-to-six-issue arcs featuring whatever characters he wants to use, re-publish those arcs in the inevitable trade paperbacks, and then rake in the profits while you watch your previously-unusable properties suddenly become "hot" again.

Alternately, you could emulate what DC has done with Waid and Perez on the Brave and the Bold title by putting JB and Roger Stern on a Marvel Team-Up title that would center around Spider-Man in much the same way the Brave and the Bold storyline has centered around Batman, but with alternating/rotating team-ups.  THAT would be a winner for both JB and Marvel, I think.

Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Bruce Buchanan
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 June 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 4797
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:26pm | IP Logged | 8  

Add me to the list of fans who would love to see JB's take on the Defenders for the following reasons:

1. No one does team books quite like JB. Not that he doesn't do quality solo books, but he seems to have a particular skill for crafting well-told team stories. The Defenders is the one major team at Marvel he really hasn't handled.

2. It would give him the chance to work on some new characters, particularly Dr. Strange.

3. The Defenders may be one of those "hidden gems" - a book with lots of potential, but a lot of good raw material and some decent history. Similar to Aquaman at D.C., as mentioned on another thread.

4. Since a Defenders book isn't likely to be a movie tie-in book, it probabably can go underneath the editorial radar, meaning JB would have more freedom to do what he wants (which could only be a good thing!) 

Back to Top profile | search | www e-mail
 
Brian Burnham
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 571
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:30pm | IP Logged | 9  

The Invaders and Nick Fury would be at the top for me.  Dr. Strange close behind.  Dan's Defenders suggestion would probably be at the top of the list but I only used JB's ideas for my answers.

Brian 
Back to Top profile | search
 
Pat Ditton
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 June 2007
Posts: 925
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 10  

With the limited series approach -- there's no reason why YOU couldn't write short self-contained stories that all link together in some mysterious way so that a reader could buy just Ka-Zar and none of the others and not feel he has to buy the others -- BUT -- if you did buy them all, then a covertly written back story would be pieced together...

Invaders (1940s) -- Black Fox (1950s) -- Nick Fury (1960s) -- Ka-Zar/Black Panther/Dr Strange (today) -- Guardians of the Galaxy (across time)

Sort of has a GENERATIONS feel to it (oh, I placed Fury in the 60s to have him involved in fighting the cold war)




Edited by Pat Ditton on 23 July 2007 at 1:39pm
Back to Top profile | search
 
Pat Ditton
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 June 2007
Posts: 925
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:42pm | IP Logged | 11  

Dan's Defenders suggestion would probably be at the top of the list but I only used JB's ideas for my answers.


*************


I think "Defenders" popped off my keyboard a few pages before Dan....just want to cement my co-writing credit when the book comes out  (haha)
Back to Top profile | search
 
Glen O'Brien
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 1138
Posted: 23 July 2007 at 1:50pm | IP Logged | 12  

Missed this thread over the weekend.  While any JB book would get my money, I think the Invaders would be the most natural choice for JB all things considered, That being said, a JB Nick Fury book seems like such a great idea I'm surprised we never saw it in the past, and that would be my vote for top choice.
Back to Top profile | search
 

<< Prev Page of 21 Next >>
  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

 Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login